November 2004 - Yello - mailman.xmission.com

Re: [Yello] Retard vs. DVD Hero (blather was in bold)
by TofP＠aol.com 06 Nov '04

06 Nov '04

I was seeking support, not a ton a lame ass answers and rhetoric to a basic issue about copywrited material for sale. In the states it is a big deal, and frequently made public. If you wish to vent, go kick your neighbor dog or cat or kangaroo. Glad to hear a few of you respect my position. That was all I was seeking................

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Throwing you a bone.
by Jon Kamm 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Yes, I see why you guys love this mailing list so much. Meanwhile ... there is Yello content on the Forum. So count to 10 and walk over to your neighbors house (The Forum) and enjoy! http://julzdesign.com/yelloforum/viewtopic.php?p=508#508

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Replay from DVD seller (responce in BOLD)
by TofP＠aol.com 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

I do not know how this will appear in the newsgroup, but this is the letter I got back from the seller and my comments in bold as well as new paragraphs. If you wish to join the fight? The sellers email address is _sonofchilly(a)yahoo.com_ (mailto:sonofchilly@yahoo.com) If you want a refund, that's cool. Returning the dvd would be choice. How did you pay? A rough date of payment? Check your paypal account as to when I sent the payment: That is how you can look as easily as I can. You have to be serious? It was less than a week ago. I understand your perspective but it is far from my reality. Which is pretty tainted? I would and have never offered any title that was available otherwise. For instance, the Yello dvd has ONLY been made available for Europe/region 2. So sell the region 2 disc in this country, they will play on most of the above average machines and most all computers. So, there is NO other way for a person in the US to view this footage unless I do what I did, which int cheap to set up. So you are trying to recoup you losses but making illegal copies for distribution throughout out the world? Who the fuck can give you the rights to that? Certainly not their label, nor Boris or Dieter. I have even had people from Europe want me to send this item to them and I refuse and find links for them to buy it. How nice of you since exporting it is also illegal and can find it easier in their countries. And you dot have a clue how much money I have personally spent on music in my life or how much music I have sold through my 2 record stores or on-line sales. How does that make any difference? Your in retail as I am, and your purchases whether for your own personal pleasure or for inventory are a business expense. So I am supposed to feel bad that you have spent thousands of dollars on music? I have a huge collection as well all legitimate. The ONLY thing we have in common is we are passionate about all types of music. So, your I'm a musician thing really doesnt get anywhere with me. I am sure I have contributed more to musicians in my life than you have so who are you to judge me?? Contributed to them how? By taking money out of their pockets, or turning people on to new and interesting artists? IF it is the ladder I commend your support. If the former: Fuck you for making money that should ultimately go to the artists. We both know they barely make shit, but the reality, they get what they can and you pocketing it is not fair by any stretch. I have bought just about every Yello release and some even in multiple formats. Again, woopee, I have as well been a fan for years, what does your statement support? And you dont have a clue how much Yello has influenced my life. I hope more than just Yello has influenced your life? So maybe some wisdom before judgement will actually contribute something of value to your existence. It is not illegal since it has not been liscensed for this country. Heard of fair use? More than a tad familiar, since I have been in the music industry all of my life and currently tour and manage roughly 5 bands. Warner Brothers doesnt own everything including the rights to your soul, yet. Are you sure you do not mean Universal?

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Re: [Yello] Ebay space cadets on shore leave often find crabs in shorts
by TofP＠aol.com 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

What?

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Re: [Yello] Ebay crybaby whining about buying something that they should have...
by TofP＠aol.com 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

I appreciate the information. Since when is this DVD not available? I thought it was released last year? If that is not so, I am mistaken, but selling illegal copies of any copywrited material is seriously dangerous in the USA> Peace to you my friend Russ Sonofchilly is the offender.

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Bootlegging on auction sites
by Jon Kamm 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

Something to think about ....... Money spent on CDs or DVDs from an auction site never gets back to the artist, management or producers even if the item is the original copy. If you have issues with the artists not getting paid then you need to buy your CDs and DVDs at your local store.

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Yello bootleg
by TofP＠aol.com 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

It's a russian bootleg that has been around for a couple of years. It's actually in PAL format if I remember and will not play on your regular dvd players in the US. jul I just it yesterday and have not tried it, but my machine can play all regions. I had no idea, this was not a real release. I had heard it was out in its legal form, but I guess not from all I have read from others. Thanks for the info Russ (USA)

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Re: [Yello] Ebay seller selling burned copies of the Yello DVD andothers
by TofP＠aol.com 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

In a message dated 11/4/2004 1:28:03 AM Pacific Standard Time, sajt(a)tvsched.com writes: you can email ebay and let them know that the goods are bootlegs. another way is to post in the sellers feedback that they sell bootlegs. And as we are fairly sure that if yello office people dont monitor this list themselves there are people here in the list that are close to the yello office who can if the choose pass the info you have posted on shaun I was going to wait a day or so for a refund or to see if she would explain herself, before I nail her to the fence on Ebay........... Thanks for the support. Russ Please Email _sonofchilly(a)yahoo.com_ (mailto:sonofchilly@yahoo.com) (Cynthia Perez) and give her shit for this.

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Ebay seller selling burned copies of the Yello DVD and others
by TofP＠aol.com 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

Is their anyway you know of to get a hold of their management? Please my friend post this in the forum and get everyone to send her emails to stop selling copies. Hopefully one might be a lawyer. The below links is to be posted as well. It is the ebay links for the sellers other items plus a new copy of the Yello disc, like the one I bought from her the other day. _http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZsonofchillyQQsorecordsperpage… QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1_ (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZsonofchillyQQsorecordsperpageZ…) "Dear sonofchilly, I have a huge issues about bootleg DVD's: A) It is completely illegal B) I want an original copy not one you made. C) who pays the band for their efforts and the production company for their efforts and the management? Tell me who. As a musician in the business, this is one for the worst things someone can do to us. I would like an immediate refund, and I'll be happy to return this disc to you. I highly recommend you think about the other items you have posted. IF they are copies and you do not own the rights to them, which after looking at your other auctions I doubt, you might want to find another legitimate way to make money, before you wind up in a large court room with fines like you have never seen before. I will not get nasty if you refund my money, but I strongly suggest you pull all items not 100% original off the auction site"

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Dieter On TV (Part 2)
by Jon Kamm 02 Nov '04

02 Nov '04

This will stay up for a week then must be taken down. http://homepage.mac.com/junekamm/FERRY-MEIERinZurich-part2.mov

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