I thought for sure that more people would have an opinion on where to scuttle the Galileo probe! Galileo is yesterday's news anymore, I suppose. On another matter, watching PBS recently, I noted that the designer of Mt. Rushmore allowed 3" extra material on the sculptures, to allow for 300,000 years of erosion. In other words, the sculpture will not acutually be finished for that lenght of time (assuming the erosion will be uniform, which I doubt). Even so, that is but the blink of an eye in terms of geologic (or cosmic) time....The show reinforced in my mind the notion that one day, the only remaining relics of mankind will be deep-space probes such as the Pioneers and Voyagers....everything here on earth is doomed to the slow but sure process of subduction, and eventual absorbtion & incineration by the elderly, red-giant stage sun. What we discard in the cold depths of interstellar space will be our only lasting legacy, enduring long after we have died out as a species. What's that, you say? We are not going to die out? OK, hold onto that thought if it makes you feel better. It's wrong, but hold onto it... Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
My opinion is that any close observation of Jupiter or IO won't make any difference before impact. It takes weeks to get the images from Galileo because the high gain antenna is still not operational. I think that if you crashed it on IO it may leave a scar there a lot longer than on Jupiter. It would also be interesting to see if there is any kind of flash that could be detected from the impact on IO. Mt. Rushmore will be gone long before we have to worry about our sun turning to a red giant. Ken -----Original Message----- From: utah-astronomy-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:utah-astronomy-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Hards Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 10:40 AM To: Utah-Astro Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Galileo, time I thought for sure that more people would have an opinion on where to scuttle the Galileo probe! Galileo is yesterday's news anymore, I suppose. On another matter, watching PBS recently, I noted that the designer of Mt. Rushmore allowed 3" extra material on the sculptures, to allow for 300,000 years of erosion. In other words, the sculpture will not acutually be finished for that lenght of time (assuming the erosion will be uniform, which I doubt). Even so, that is but the blink of an eye in terms of geologic (or cosmic) time....The show reinforced in my mind the notion that one day, the only remaining relics of mankind will be deep-space probes such as the Pioneers and Voyagers....everything here on earth is doomed to the slow but sure process of subduction, and eventual absorbtion & incineration by the elderly, red-giant stage sun. What we discard in the cold depths of interstellar space will be our only lasting legacy, enduring long after we have died out as a species. What's that, you say? We are not going to die out? OK, hold onto that thought if it makes you feel better. It's wrong, but hold onto it... Chuck __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ _______________________________________________ Utah-astronomy mailing list Utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy
--- KillerKen <KillerKen@killerken.com> wrote:
My opinion is that any close observation of Jupiter or IO won't make any difference before impact. It takes weeks to get the images from Galileo because the high gain antenna is still not operational>
Now, there's a thinking man!
Mt. Rushmore will be gone long before we have to worry about our sun turning to a red giant.
Yes, that was overtly implied. I'm afraid all evidence of humanity will be gone long before then. C. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
If current events in Israel are any kind of barometer, I would have to agree with Chuck as far as how long we are destined to last as a species... On the topic of Galileo (the man), do any of you know what he considered to be the greatest invention of humankind? (I happen to agree with him, even in the 21st century). Whoever comes up with the correct answer gets a gold star for the day. Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
I think we should send the Galileo probe off in the direction of a solar system we have detected that may hold earth like planets. I hope we don't die out. It would be nice for mankind to come together and last forever. Maybe just a dream, but you never know. Joe --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
--- Joseph Barney <jbarneyut@yahoo.com> wrote:
I think we should send the Galileo probe off in the direction of a solar system we have detected that may hold earth like planets.
The probe is limping around as it is; it probably wouldn't last long enough to get it through the series of "slingshots" needed to accellerate it out of the solar system. Steering gas is almost completely depleted. Nevertheles, I like the sentiment, would second the idea if possible.
I hope we don't die out. It would be nice for mankind to come together and last forever. Maybe just a dream, but you never know.
This is OT, but mankind won't last forever, even if we don't kill ourselves off. Evolution never stops until the entire biosphere collapses. It would probably be accurrate to wish eternity for our descendants, whoever or whatever they may be. And I don't consider this idea denegrating toward mankind as a whole. To anyone who thinks we represent the pinnacle of evolution, the end of the process, well, all I can say is, "you've got low expectations". C. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
Too bad for the spacecraft. I would love to see what mankind evolves into. I will have to settle for Sci-Fi though. Joe Chuck Hards <chuckhards@yahoo.com> wrote: --- Joseph Barney wrote:
The probe is limping around as it is; it probably wouldn't last long enough to get it through the series of "slingshots" needed to accellerate it out of the solar system. Steering gas is almost completely depleted. Nevertheles, I like the sentiment, would second the idea if possible. This is OT, but mankind won't last forever, even if we don't kill ourselves off. Evolution never stops until the entire biosphere collapses. It would probably be accurrate to wish eternity for our descendants, whoever or whatever they may be. And I don't consider this idea denegrating toward mankind as a whole. To anyone who thinks we represent the pinnacle of evolution, the end of the process, well, all I can say is, "you've got low expectations". --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail.
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