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It's back (Mars hoax)
by Wiggins Patrick 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

I thought we'd be done with this by now but I was just stopped by someone who recognized me as someone at SPOC and asked about seeing Mars as big as the full Moon tonight. Ugh! What happens on the web stay on the web. Forever! patrick

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SLAS Pres 2015
by Rodger C. Fry 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

All, This debate has gone on much too far with little or no valuable results on any side of the coin. The point is, we have a great society and it has become that by the dedicated work of its officers and the volunteer contributions of all the members. I am certain that when it is all said and done, we will be able to have all board positions filled with capable volunteers that will bring something to add to the strength of the society in the future. If we can't do this, perhaps it is time to disband the society I suggest we allow the board to take the necessary steps that is under our control and vested in us by the member votes that placed us on the board. Thank You, Rodger C. Fry SLAS President

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Stonehenge
by Joan Carman 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

It's been about 50 years since Gerald Hawkins wrote "Stonhenge Decoded." While many of the claims in his book may be a "wee beyond" believability, Stonehenge is well-known for its summer solstice align ment. Have been keeping my eye on the continued research regarding the entire area, but this is a new twist. The article itself is rather simplistic, without a lot of solid information, but the potential is intrigu ing. Dave Gary, maybe you would have some imput on the subject. http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/new-light-on-stonehenge-11706891/

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS Pres 2015
by chuckhards 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

I thought surely mention of fracking would draw Erik out. He must have canceled his Internet service. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: daniel turner via Utah-Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date:08/26/2014 5:52 PM (GMT-07:00) To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS Pres 2015 I'm rather disappointed in this particular tempest in a teapot. No one has left the list in a high dudgeon or threatened to sue. Even Joe and Siegfried are trying to be nice. I'm guessing the missing element is Eric Hansen. His posts starting at the first > that always seem to get lost among the quotes from other posters. But when wound up he will respond to every post oh the list thus doubling the entry count single handedly. Where are you Eric? What are your views on the SLAS constitution? DT >________________________________ > From: "Hutchings, Mat" <mat.hutchings(a)siemens.com> >To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:20 PM >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS Pres 2015 > > >Yep, bring on the popcorn. I suggest we add Bigfoot to your list of possible subjects, Chuck. > >Mat > >-----Original Message----- >From: Utah-Astronomy [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hards >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 3:18 PM >To: Joe Bauman; Utah Astronomy >Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS Pres 2015 > >Where's my popcorn? > >Maybe we can talk about fracking, climate change, or healthcare reform >after this. No, wait- immigration policy or UFO conspiracy cover-ups! > >;-) >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". > >This message and any attachments are solely for the use of intended recipients. The information contained herein may include trade secrets, protected health or personal information, privileged or otherwise confidential information. Unauthorized review, forwarding, printing, copying, distributing, or using such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you received this email in error, and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email and any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your system. Thank you for your cooperation > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". > > > _______________________________________________ Utah-Astronomy mailing list http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Send messages to the list to Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. To unsubscribe go to: http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS Pres 2015
by Joe Bauman 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

Joan, I have just reread the constitution and I am baffled by your statement that it's a shame that one who wants to change it hasn't read it. Please explain what you mean by that aspersion because I am one who wants to change the constitution and I don't know what anyone on this side of the discussion said that is in conflict with it. I had read it before and, after your comment, read it again. You should clear this up because I for one do not like vague accusiations hanging over my head. Speaking of aspersions: Siegfried called me an extremist for supporting Charlie's proposed amendment. My response is that if somebody can't think of a sound argument in a discussion, he or she is apt to fall back on name-calling. I expected better from you, Siegfried. -- Joe ------------------------------ On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 11:46 AM MDT CenturyLink Customer wrote: > > >It's a shame one who wants to change the SLAS constitution isn't familiar with it. I haven't read the thing for well-more than a decade, maybe two, but the September meeting is a preliminary vote, only necessary if there are more than three running for a particular office and October is the only voting month . > > > >As for the current Presidential dilema. If Roger can't cajole someone into the office, I will rejoin the club and run as a write in - in October. > > > >As for the amendment. I am in full support of the term limitation. Perhaps someone should ask Roger if he would love to serve again or if he is grateful he doesn't have t o. The club needs new blood, always has and always will. It needs new ideas, fresh thoughts on old issues. It's aging and needs to focus on fixing that problem. That is its MAIN problem. SLAS has a fantastic facility at SPOC, but those who built it and care about it most are aging (sorry but its true). Who will take take of the facility in 20 years? 10 years? > > > >There are only t wo positions on the board that work and carry the brunt of SLAS for the year -. t he President and the Secretary/Treasurer. I would propose the Secretary/Treasurer be split into two offices, lessening the burden and a third board member at large be added to main tain an odd number on the board for tie votes. > > > >Finally, SLAS isn't a good ole boys club, it is a legal entity and the constitution provides sufficient (minimal, but sufficient) organization to give SLAS a 503(c) status. How might the propose d amendment affect that status? If someone can serve as Pres or whatever position for life, or until they get board (pun intended :)) it might jeopardize the irs status of the club. I re ally don't know, but it should certainly be a primary consideration before any amendment is even suggested. > > > >Me, myself and I, not a "CenturyLink Customer" - Wahoo!!!!! > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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test
by jcarman6＠q.com 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

This is just to see if I've eliminated the centurylink crap. Joan

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] SLAS Pres 2015
by Bruce Hugo 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

Wow. 3 nominations, 3 declines. We've had the a similar problem in the Utah Orchid Society (UOS). Not many willing to take on the responsibilities of office. I'm the UOS president this year and I was the only one nominated who was willing to run. *sigh* Oh, on the SLAS Treasurer term debate: I'm not jumping into this heated debate, just offering an FYI - The Treasurer position in the UOS has no term limit. It does help keep the accounting stable/reliable as long as the member is willing to perform the duties and does them well (We have experienced Treasurer problems in the past). My only worry as President is if something were to happen to the Treasurer (car crash, health problems, etc.) you need to make sure there is a backup person who has all the accounting information and account data, just in case. I am actually presenting this at the next UOS board meeting. If not already done in the SLAS, it may be something to consider. Clear skies all and happy growing (Orchids)! Bruce Hugo

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SLAS Pres 2015
by CenturyLink Customer 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

It's a shame one who wants to change the SLAS constitution isn't familiar with it. I haven't read the thing for well-more than a decade, maybe two, but the September meeting is a preliminary vote, only necessary if there are more than three running for a particular office and October is the only voting month . As for the current Presidential dilema. If Roger can't cajole someone into the office, I will rejoin the club and run as a write in - in October. As for the amendment. I am in full support of the term limitation. Perhaps someone should ask Roger if he would love to serve again or if he is grateful he doesn't have t o. The club needs new blood, always has and always will. It needs new ideas, fresh thoughts on old issues. It's aging and needs to focus on fixing that problem. That is its MAIN problem. SLAS has a fantastic facility at SPOC, but those who built it and care about it most are aging (sorry but its true). Who will take take of the facility in 20 years? 10 years? There are only t wo positions on the board that work and carry the brunt of SLAS for the year -. t he President and the Secretary/Treasurer. I would propose the Secretary/Treasurer be split into two offices, lessening the burden and a third board member at large be added to main tain an odd number on the board for tie votes. Finally, SLAS isn't a good ole boys club, it is a legal entity and the constitution provides sufficient (minimal, but sufficient) organization to give SLAS a 503(c) status. How might the propose d amendment affect that status? If someone can serve as Pres or whatever position for life, or until they get board (pun intended :)) it might jeopardize the irs status of the club. I re ally don't know, but it should certainly be a primary consideration before any amendment is even suggested. Me, myself and I, not a "CenturyLink Customer" - Wahoo!!!!!

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ATM blast from the past
by Chuck Hards 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

I thought some of the ATMs on the list would get a kick out of my latest historical "find". http://www.cloudynights.com/topic/440921-classic-ashtrays/?p=6176776 It's at least 80 years old, with a direct connection to Russell W. Porter, and probably handled personally by his second-in-command at Stellafane at the time, John M. Pierce. It's a safe bet that had not Porter and his friends started the telescope-making movement in America back then, the face of amateur astronomy today would be very, very different.

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retest
by Joan Carman 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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