August 2013 - Utah-Astronomy - mailman.xmission.com

Rides to SPOC
by D P Pierce 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

I need rides to SPOC Fri and Sat. My usual rides Roger and Nate aren't available. Deloy

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Navigation Arrow: St. George
by Dave Gary 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Here’s that navigation arrow near my house in St. George. Drove up to it in a couple of minutes and took these photos. This one has a monument. http://www.flickr.com/photos/78046474@N06/sets/72157635281617142/

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete arrows (OT)
by Ed 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Patrick, No problem. Give the bulb to the Wendover museum or to Brent if the museum doesn't want to display it. I just didn't want to see it go in the trash. Ed -------------------------- Quoting Patrick Wiggins <paw(a)wirelessbeehive.com>: > On 28 Aug 2013, at 05:08, Ed wrote: > >> Regarding the bulb you found at Lake Point, I would like to have it >> if it is still available. > > Sorry Ed, but as I noted in another post to the list since the bulb > may be original to the arrow I'm going to do a bit more checking. > If it is original I'll see if the museum in Wendover wants it. But > if it is modern, it's yours (your request arrived before Brent's). > > patrick

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The sun today
by Chuck Hards 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

The clouds parted this afternoon so I grabbed the PST for a quick look. A nice active sun with prominences around most of the limb. I didn't have time to set up the GEM and a better camera, but grabbed this *hand-held cellphone* shot. Might try it again in coming days with a better camera if I have a couple of hours that coincide with blue skies. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii24/JethroTull1958/ATM/Astro/Sun8282013…

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows
by Ed 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

Brent, Exit 6: Yes, that is where the road goes nearly straight north to Lakeside (where the railroad crosses the lake from Ogden and reaches the western shore of the Great Salt Lake). The road is labeled "Frontage Road" on Google Earth. The arrow is on the hill about a mile due north of the interchange. Exit 77: Yes, that is where SR 196 (the Skull Valley road) joins I-80 at Timpie Springs. The arrow is beside the road going out to the Springs and is northeast of the interchange. I'm sure we are both talking about the same two of arrows. According to the GIS Arrow Project map, the main route to LAX goes out the south end of the SL valley. The south tail of the arrow at Lakepoint must be for an alternate route to LAX. I assume that tail is intended to connect with the arrow east of Stockton that Patrick found and is on the GIS map. Did you try the Bing.com/maps for better aerial views of the arrows? Ed ----------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 08:57:53 -0700 [09:57:53 AM MDT] From: Brent Watson <brentjwatson(a)yahoo.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Reply-To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows Headers: Show All Headers | Show Mailing List Information Ed, Are these the arrows you are referring to: Exit 62 - the Eagle Range exit Exit 77 - near the salt evaporation ponds? The Lakepoint arrow seco0nd shaft may be from LA, but then what are the other arrows that extend south through the Salt Lake valley? Lakepoint shows an alternate route, perhaps? Brent

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows
by Ed 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

Patrick & Brent, I finally got the GIS site to work by going to the home page via Google. Anyway, I may be missing something here, but the arrows at exit 77 and 62 do not point down the flight path, not even close. Both of them point eastbound toward Ogden +/-. Any ideas? ------------------- Kelly, You said: "I don't think you sound crazy at all." I concur or I have to be included, or counted, as crazy, too. You said: "...One more cool thing about Utah, maybe." Absolutely no maybe about it. I enjoy your very nice and imaginative art. Ed

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Hey, we're Martians!
by D P Pierce 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

http://news.yahoo.com/earth-life-likely-came-mars-study-suggests-221402608.… Deloy

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows
by Bruce Hugo 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

Wow! What a cool investigative trip! Bruce Hugo ------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 14:37:32 -0600 From: Daniel Holmes <danielh(a)holmesonics.com> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows Message-ID: <6728A7D7-B085-4942-9783-6AE98F72E920(a)holmesonics.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I drove the old Transcontinental railroad bed from Promontory to Lucin last summer.... <clip> Dan

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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows
by Joe Bauman 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

Very cool. Thanks! Joe ------------------------------ On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:01 PM MDT Daniel Holmes wrote: >Here's a couple of pictures: The original marker, a closeup of the 1957 USGS marker that's on top, and the sign commemorating the original... > >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60391566/WheelerSurvey1.jpg >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60391566/WheelerSurvey2.jpg >https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60391566/WheelerSurvey3.jpg > >Dan > >On Aug 28, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Joe Bauman <josephmbauman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Dan, What was the Wheeler Survey marker like? Thanks, Joe >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Daniel Holmes <danielh(a)holmesonics.com> >> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 2:37 PM >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows >> >> >> I drove the old Transcontinental railroad bed from Promontory to Lucin last summer. Dad was riding shotgun looking for holes and other terrain that'd kill the Jeep and Mom was writing down GPS coordinates of the water stations, sidings and ghost towns along it--almost nothing left of most of them--they were company owned and were in most cases physically picked up and moved to Nevada when the railroad moved south over the GSL. We stopped in Lucin for a while and looked around, saw the old watering hole that was fed from a 4" pipe from a spring up in the mountains 10+ miles away. Up until a few years ago, there were a few people living there, now it's only Ivo. We did see a UPS truck making a delivery (or a pickup, I guess) to the buildings to the side of the airstrip. >> >> It took the better part of the day because of the mapping, but it was a great trip. Hot and dusty, but the railbed was in remarkably good shape (could hit 45 mph in parts). Most of the bridges have had bypasses installed so you can't drive over them, but there are still plenty of ties, spikes, metal parts, etc left. I found the remains of a firehouse, and took a couple of the firebricks. I was amazed at how light it was, even with some of the slag still attached. The old cemeteries for the various towns are still there, but only a few readable markers. I also found the 1869 Army survey marker put in by 1st Lt Wheeler on his 'Survey west of the 100th Meridian',the 1957 USGS marker and a more modern marker--he was off by only about 10 feet. >> >> We finished the trip by driving down to the Sun Tunnels, and had dinner at the Salt Flats Cafe. I've never had better, or cheaper Mexican food, and make it a point to always eat there when I can. >> >> Dan >> >> On Aug 28, 2013, at 1:37 PM, Brent Watson <brentjwatson(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> His name is Ivo Zdarsky and is an escapee from the communist blok - literally. That's how he got his start in aviation. He built his escape machine. Here is a story about him. >> >> http://www.heraldextra.com/news/state-and-regional/airport-owner-is-only-re… >> >> It says he cleared the airstrip. I think I remember there being an airstrip when I was a teenager. I'll have to check out my old sectionals. >> >> But, I almost like your story better, Chuck. >> >> Brent >> >> From: Chuck Hards <chuck.hards(a)gmail.com> >> To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:22 PM >> Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Concrete Arrows >> >> >> I bet Larry remembers the days when you could meet the Tuesday autogyro at >> the Lucin airstrip to pick up your mail. The dirigible came one Saturday a >> month, unless the wind was blowing. ;-) >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> >> -- >> Daniel Holmes, danielh(a)holmesonics.com >> "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". >> _______________________________________________ >> Utah-Astronomy mailing list >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> >> Send messages to the list to >> Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com >> >> The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. >> >> To unsubscribe go to: >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >> Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options". > >-- >Daniel Holmes, danielh(a)holmesonics.com >"Laugh while you can, monkey boy!" -- Lord John Whorfin > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Utah-Astronomy mailing list >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > >Send messages to the list to >Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > >The Utah-Astronomy mailing list is not affiliated with any astronomy club. > >To unsubscribe go to: >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy >Then enter your email address in the space provided and click on "Unsubscribe or edit options".

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Transcontinental Air Mail Route
by Beverley Getzen 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

More info on the beacons and arrows: http://www.cntraveler.com/daily-traveler/2013/06/transcontinental-air-mail-… -- Beverley Getzen Retired, US Army Corps of Engineers PO Box 202 Wadesboro, NC 28170-0202 704-694-7022 "There are times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time we fail to protest." Elie Wiesel, Holocaust survivor and Nobel Laureate.

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