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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge map?
by Dale Hooper 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

You got it right - Betty & Barney Hill. I think claimed they were abducted by aliens from Tau Ceti. > -----Original Message----- > From: > utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu@mailman > .xmission. > com]On Behalf Of Kim Hyatt > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:26 PM > To: Utah Astronomy > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge map? > > > Have I forgotten the first names of the Hill's? Help me out... > > Kim Hyatt Architect > 1849 East 1300 South > Salt Lake City, Utah 84108 > 801.631.5228 > kimharch(a)msn.com<mailto:kimharch@msn.com> > > serius est quam cogitas > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chuck Hards<mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com> > To: Utah Astronomy<mailto:utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge map? > > > Kim, the only Betty and Barney I know are the Rubbles. > > I just got the Utah-UFO page when I searched for > "Wedge, Utah" as search terms. They have lots of > photos posted of their gatherings at the Wedge. Looks > like they pretty much emulate the Close Encounters > movie. > > Sorry! > > > --- Kim Hyatt <kimharch(a)msn.com<mailto:kimharch@msn.com>> wrote: > > > I wasn't aware that Betty and Barney live in Utah. > > In fact, are they still living? > > > > Kim Hyatt Architect > > 1849 East 1300 South > > Salt Lake City, Utah 84108 > > 801.631.5228 > > > kimharch(a)msn.com<mailto:kimharch@msn.com<mailto:kimharch@msn.c > om<mailto:kimharch@msn.com>> > > > > serius est quam cogitas > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chuck > Hards<mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com<mailto:chuckhards@yahoo.com>> > > To: Utah > > > > Astronomy<mailto:utah-astronomy@mailman.xmission.com<mailto:ut > ah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com>> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:43 AM > > Subject: RE: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge map? > > > > > > Thanks, Don, I'm not going. A freind at work was > > looking for a motorcycle day-trip with lots of > > scenery > > for this weekend. My wife's health has not > > improved > > so I'm still stuck at home on weekends. > > > > While surfing, I noticed that the Wedge is > > frequented > > by the UFO people...has anyone run into that > > group? > > > > C. > > > > --- "Don J. Colton" > > > <djcolton(a)piol.com<mailto:djcolton@piol.com<mailto:djcolton@pi > ol.com<mailto:djcolton@piol.com>>> wrote: > > > > > Map to Wedge Overlook is at > > > > > > > http://slas.ws/IMAGES/MAPS/WEDGECEDARMTN.jpg<http://slas.ws/IM > AGES/MAPS/WEDGECEDARMTN.jpg<http://slas.ws/IMAGES/MAPS/WEDGECE > DARMTN.jpg<http://slasws/IMAGES/MAPS/WEDGECEDARMTN.jpg>> > > > Turn right at overlook (just after pit toilet) > > and > > > we will be on right side > > > of the road. If they allow us to camp past the > > wood > > > rail fence we will be > > > farther down. If it is still posted we will be > > just > > > a 100-150 yards or so > > > from the turn off. > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge map?
by Michael Carnes 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

Sounds like some astronomer hiding in the bushes could shine a green laser along the canyon walls and keep 'em talking for weeks... I just got the Utah-UFO page when I searched for "Wedge, Utah" as search terms. They have lots of photos posted of their gatherings at the Wedge. Looks like they pretty much emulate the Close Encounters movie. Sorry!

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Steven's Quintet
by Jim Gibson 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

Last year I was looking at or for Steven's Qeintet. It seems to me that it is near the northern edge of Pegasus somewhere. Anybody have the NGC for the any one in the group? I would like to check it out this weekend. JG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

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Wedge Report
by Jim Gibson 13 Oct '04

13 Oct '04

I went to the Wedge Friday night thinking that others would be there. Being alone gave me a chance to get my new 20 200+ lbs scope out and into my van. Thank goodness all went well. I guess I took a chance going to the Wedge for First Light with my new TeleKit not even knowing if the trusses were the right length and no tube cutter. Everything turned out great. It would have been fun to share it with you all who I have come to really enjoy being around. I got setup as the sun was going down. I am pretty amazed that the folks at TeleKit got the balance right and the truss tube length right - right off the bat. When I put my Lumicon finder, my Telrad and my Nagler 31mm (aka the grenade) in place everything moved like oil. I had practice collimating the scope at home so I had it down for my first outing with the scope. Once I got the finder and the Telrad calibrated with the scope on Arcturus low in the west we were all set but had to wait for darkness. I began to wonder what should be my first object. As I conjured up a list of candidate, I soon saw Sagittarius so I just went for M8 the Lagoon Nebula. I then dropped down to the nice cluster M7 and then began working my way up the Milky Way; M54, M69, M70, M28, M22, M8 you know the drill all the way up to the double cluster. TeleKit has a great feature in its filter slider; it can hold 3 or four filters all at once. I put in a UHC and an OII filter and when I found M16 the Eagle Nebula I observed through both filters and back to clear. It was interesting and fun. I did the same thing on the Vial Nebula; that was really neat. I could see different things from clear to UHC to OIII. Then I followed the arm along. I had not noticed how long that thing is before. I went to all the old familiar favorites. Even though M51 was quite low in the sky I could see its structure very will. With the 31mm Nagler I could just barely get M81&M82 in one eye view. I puttered around Cassiopeia for a while; M52, M103 NGC 281 wasnt too impressive. I found M72, M2 and M30. M2 was so full and beautiful; what a magnificent cluster. If I remember right (I left my notes in the car) M2 as 5 strands of stars like arms sticking out. If it wasnt M2, it was one of the others. I found the Saturn nebula and it was quite large and a greenish blue and the wings that look like saturns rings was quite visible. Then to the East I checked out M38, M36, M37, then after a while M1. M31 through the 31mm Nagler was fantastic. I couldnt see the whole thing but I could see the bright central core, the dust lane and its companion galaxies M32 and M110 by moving the scope a touch. In fact I could see M31 with the unaided eye as I went back to it several times; I just put the Telrad on this fuzzy spot and peered through the eyepiece and there it was. I did use other eyepieces and every thing focused well down to the 9mm Ortho. I did use the 7mm Nagler but I mention the 9mm Ortho because of the different focusing requirements for the small compact lens compared to the 31mm Nagler. The only thing lacking were friends, otherwise I had a great time under great skies. The temperature must have been in the 50s because I only needed a light jacket not even buttoned. JG --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!

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camping
by Joe Bauman 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Re. Jim's question: "If you stay up all night near the scope, is that camping?" I had the same question in mind the last time I went to Island in the Sky. That place is a HUGE disappointment to an oldster who camped there 20 or 30 years ago. At one time you could just drive along, take any side road, camp anywhere. Now there are "no camping" signs everywhere except for a designated place or maybe two. The designated spot is called "Big Flat" and that's exactly what it is, a big dusty parking lot with other campers all around. It's a dismal place to set up a scope. So I drove toward a place where my friend Conrad and I used to camp many years ago, where the road heads down toward Potash. Back then we could drive off onto a projection that stuck out above the canyons, making our own private little Dead Horse Point. But the route onto the projection obviously was closed. I couldn't even find it. So I drove around near there until I found a big excavated site, probably a gravel pit, where I could set up off the dirt road without going off-road. I stayed up all night, worried that some ranger would drive up and cite me for camping in a no-camping site -- even though I didn't set up a tent, didn't start a fire and didn't even go to sleep in my car. So much for the wide open spaces of the West. I have to add, this was one of the most beautiful nights for observing, but it really took much of the pleasure out of it to worry about the restrictions. Best wishes, Joe

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RE: [Utah-astronomy] Re: camping
by Dale Hooper 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

Well, until we enter utopia where we all drive cars outfitted with "Mr. Fusion", the petroleum has to come from somewhere. I realize that no one wants to have it imported, no one wants it drilled near them and no one wants to have it drilled for anywhere in this country. But, it has to come from somewhere. BTW, so-called wind power proponents don't want wind farms around Nantucket either - now who do you suppose lives there? > -----Original Message----- > From: > utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:utah-astronomy-bounces+dale.hooper=sdl.usu.edu@mailman > .xmission. > com]On Behalf Of Patrick Wiggins > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 11:48 AM > To: Utah Astronomy > Subject: [Utah-astronomy] Re: camping > > > Joe Bauman wrote: > > > > PS: Another thing that was really annoying about my trip to > Island in > > the Sky this year is that while the public is forbidden from driving > > off the beaten track or camping anywhere other than that awful > > designated spot, in the same vicinity there were oil rigs and > > clusters of buildings, trucks and drilling gear. -- Joe > > Isn't that an example of what the "equal use" movement is > pushing for? Maybe > you should have put a Halliburton sign on your car and you > could parked wherever > you wanted... > > Patrick > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com > >

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Re: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge Map
by astrodeb＠charter.net 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

How far is Price from the Wedge? I'd rather stay at a Holiday Inn Express rather than camp. Debbie > From: Josephine Grahn <bsi(a)xmission.com> > Date: 2004/10/12 Tue AM 07:14:49 GMT > To: Utah Astronomy <utah-astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: [Utah-astronomy] Wedge Map > > While I have not been to the Wedge since Spring, I do recall that there was > a big "No camping beyond this fence" sign on the wooden fence, but, where > we traditionally camp there were those little "picture of a tent" on metal > post signs. There were also the "picture of a tent with a circle and a > slash" on a metal post in some other places. When the Sheriff came > through, he had no problem with where we were camped, although he did hang > around and question us a bit after he saw the pirate flag. Apparently he > decided we were harmless. (Of course , he did not see us at night with our > eyepatches, cannons and bandoleers of eyepieces, or he might have thought > differently :)) > > Mind you, it does not look like we will be able to go this weekend, so I > won't be there to catch the wrath if the little signs are outdated and not > valid. On that note, Brent, how fresh did the snow at Wolf Creek look? And > how much was there? We may be able to sneak away Thursday or Friday night > for a few hours > > By the way, I think Guy is enjoying life way too much, and should probably > be reported to...to... to Someone! > > Jo Grahn > > At 09:09 PM 10/11/2004 -0600, you wrote: > >I've preferred camping west beyond the rail fence, where we used to camp > as a group. However, the pit toilet isn't as close and one might get busted > by the BLM for camping there. The designated camp sites aren't too bad - > just not as close to the rim, and of course the neighbors are unpredictable. > > > >Kim Hyatt Architect > >1849 East 1300 South > >Salt Lake City, Utah 84108 > >801.631.5228 > >kimharch(a)msn.com<mailto:kimharch@msn.com> > > > >serius est quam cogitas > > > _______________________________________________ > Utah-Astronomy mailing list > Utah-Astronomy(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/utah-astronomy > Visit the Photo Gallery: http://www.utahastronomy.com >

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The Wedge? Don't forget the Kevlar
by diveboss＠xmission.com 12 Oct '04

12 Oct '04

In an effort to keep as many of you as safe as possible, here is my Public Service Announcement for folks going to the Wedge: Folks going to the Wedge this weekend should be advised that the Utah General Elk Hunt is underway which includes the Wedge and surrounding areas. If you venture out and about on foot, you might want to wear the "in vogue" fall colors of Blaze Orange. In the unlikely event you decide not to wear the color, remember, apply direct pressure to stop bleeding, and the revised CPR rate is now a whopping 100 chest compressions per minute with 2 breasts after every 15 compressions (single rescuer), or, 1 breath every 5 compressions (two person rescuer). ;) P.S. First thing when arriving at camp, always check your cell phone to make sure you have service. Remember, have fun and duck often. ;) Guy

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Wedge space
by Michael Carnes 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

Given that the campsite area at the Wedge is fairly small, does anyone know if there are likely to be hunters camping there this weekend? I'd hate to run into demand exceeding supply. Michael

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Cleveland-Lloyd
by Kim Hyatt 11 Oct '04

11 Oct '04

I give up. Don't know why MSN screws up the web address when I try to include a link. Kim Hyatt Architect 1849 East 1300 South Salt Lake City, Utah 84108 801.631.5228 kimharch(a)msn.com<mailto:kimharch@msn.com> serius est quam cogitas

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