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Re: confirm 7ed7b16a7d92cddc1e800ca5be2ccde8ecc3420c
by Chincogan Network Services Lists 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

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arc syslog messages
by Charles Sprickman 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Howdy, Can anyone confirm or deny whether this message means anything more than it says? ---- Apr 30 16:59:26 focal-arc At 16:51:49, Facility "IP", Level "UNUSUAL":: Received packet for destination- 216.220.x.x. Drop unused address within the IP pool. ---- Thanks, Charles -- Charles Sprickman spork(a)inch.com

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RE: [USR-TC] ARC Command I can't remember
by Joel - Fox Computers 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

nevermind - duh - figured it out -----Original Message----- From: Joel - Fox Computers Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:34 PM To: Discussion relating to the 3Com/US Robotics Total Control modemsystems. Subject: [USR-TC] ARC Command I can't remember What's the command for setting the ARC to always go to the primary Radius 1st? Set radius priority_something totally can't remember - anyone know? _______________________________________________ USR-TC mailing list USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc

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ARC Command I can't remember
by Joel - Fox Computers 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

What's the command for setting the ARC to always go to the primary Radius 1st? Set radius priority_something totally can't remember - anyone know?

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FS: TC1000's
by Stephen Rivera - WRCA.Net 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Available in stock. 1- 3Com TC1000 w/ Dual 130, ***333NMC***, 2- Hiper ARC, 14- Hiper DSP $4900 9- 3Com TC1000 w/ Dual 130, Hiper NMC, 2- Hiper ARC, 14- Hiper DSP $2750 10- 3Com TC1000 w/ Dual 70A, NMC v90, Hiper ARC, Dual PRI, 12- Quad Modems 1- Cable Upstream Receiver $650 1- Ingres DS3 card $3100 WANT TO BUY: MULTISPAN 96 port modem sets ********************************************************************* Steve Rivera IM: srivera711 (877)WRCANET x102 for more product info got www.wrca.net WRCA , Inc. - 481 Wright Debow Rd. Jackson, NJ 08527

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accounting issue
by Jim Mc Cay 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Hello, I'm trying to setup 3com's old Total Conrol Security/Accounting Server software, ver 6.0.90 to just do accounting. I am receiving accounting information from my hiper router card and from my hiper nmc card. The info is being written to a file called: security.log When I try to use the Security and accounting database manager - accounting reports menu/program to pull the data up, I get either no info at all or where the info should be under each of the columns within the report I have: #Error. Any suggestions? I am using a Win98se pc with MS Access 97 installed. I have a separate server doing radius authentication for my users and do not wish to change that. I just want to find some softaware that will allow me to just pull and view accounting info from my chassis. I'd perfer it to be free or next to free. Any suggestions. Thanks for all help jim

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WTB: Quad modem card backs with daughter cards.
by WayneG 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Wanted to buy about 20 analog "backs" that have the 2 daughter boards attached. Thank you, -Wayne Wayne Griswold Network Administrator U.P.Logon Internet Computer Connection U.P. (906) 774-4847 work (906) 396-3172 cell (906) 774-0335 fax SysAdmin(a)uplogon.com

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NMC out of network
by Anil 30 Apr '03

30 Apr '03

Hi, my HiperNMC disappeared from my network. Removed and plugged the card back in. Below is what I see. And i can find a red light glowing inside the rear card. Anyone have any ideas what's wrong here? Regards Anil ================================ 3Com SDL2 Revision: 1.0.05 BIOS Extension Link Date Aug 25 1998 at 14:13:08 Initiating Op Equipment List Detected: ******************************************************************* * Platform: Hiper NMC * Flash Amount: 8M * DRAM Amount: 16384K * * Chassis: 16-slot * NIC Type: Ethernet * Clocked Chassis * * PSU 1: INSTALLED * 130 Amps * AC Type * * PSU 2: INSTALLED * 130 Amps * AC Type * * Packet Bus Clock Circuit: Installed * Ambient temp: 75F * ******************************************************************* Power on Self Test in Progress. ...........................................................................................TIMEOUT ** NMC Diagnostics Version 1.1.0. ** Manufacturing Code = 1AAA13M01234 Hardware ID = 0 Detected NMC platform. Test Name Time Status ----------------------------------------+------+-------- DRAM Test ------------------------------- (2) - PASSED Fan Speed Test -------------------------- (2) - PASSED Debug Port Test ------------------------- (2) - PASSED Real Time Clock Test -------------------- (2) - PASSED A to D Test ----------------------------- (2) - ERROR Manufacturing Info -> 1AAA13M0 Mode/Env -> 1/0 Fault Code -> 0-15-1-1 Expected Data -> 0 Received Data -> 0 Address of Failure -> 0 Text Message -> Measured Temperature out of range Info Message -> Expected: 75 +/- 10F Actual: 91F Ethernet NIC (Basic) Test --------------- (2) - PASSED Always Pass Test ------------------------ (2) - PASSED NMC Diagnostics Complete

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Question abou Prices
by alex 29 Apr '03

29 Apr '03

What is price for software support/contract (for downloading TC software updates) per card? (I mean price per DSP card, ARC and NMC).

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RE: *MORE INFO* RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas?MajorWTFhere.
by Joel - Fox Computers 28 Apr '03

28 Apr '03

I'll be sure and relay the info soon as i know for sure. - Joel -----Original Message----- From: Paul Farber [mailto:farber@admin.f-tech.net] Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 7:33 PM To: Discussion relating to the 3Com/US Robotics Total Control modem systems. Subject: RE: *MORE INFO* RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas?MajorWTFhere. Tell us what finally does fix it. -- Paul Farber Farber Technology farber(a)admin.f-tech.net Ph 570-628-5303 Fax 570-628-5545 On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Joel - Fox Computers wrote: > Thanks! > > That's pretty much been the response here. Thanks to ALL who have replied on and off list! > > We're going to check for power problems, swap out with a new chassis from Shannan, and then if it still doesn't work we're going to yell a lot at the telco. > > Thanks again for all the help! > > - Joel > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: matthew(a)the-spa.com [mailto:matthew@the-spa.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:10 PM > To: usr-tc(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: RE: *MORE INFO* RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any > Ideas?MajorWTFhere. > > > > ok. > > so the rack totally worked fine with the current setup and software > versions in a different place with a different telco? > > i wouldn't touch the software. > > i would focus on what changed... > > the obvious stuff, the telco and the switch settings. > > i've been pretty lucky with this and have had some very co-operative > telco guys, especially the switch techs, for the most part once you > get to them, they can be very helpful. > > have you thought about silly stuff like power? is the power > fluctuating? > > long shot. but what the hell. > > i would focus on the switch type and the cabling. i would explain to > them that it worked 100% elsewhere and only acted up here. > > the hiper arc acting up make no sense but i definitely wouldn't be > worrying too much about software revisions in a case like this. > > matthew > > > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: jfox(a)foxcomputers.com > To: usr-tc(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: RE: *MORE INFO* RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? > MajorWTFhere. > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 13:08:30 -0500 > > >I considered that, but I've been running 5.3.110 for a long time > >without a problem. > > > >On a different rack: > > > >HiPer>> show date > >System Date: 26-APR-2003 18:01:20 > >System UpTime: 19d 14:52:59 > >HiPer>> _show ver > >V5.3.110 - 0 /Non-Encr > >HiPer>> > > > >Only 19 days because that was when we had a major power outage - > >otherwise, not a glitch. I can't imagine this being a firmware issue > >at all, unless someone can relate similar results on a similar config > >or something I'm missing. > > > >In addition, the box that's doing this has had 5.3.110 on it for a > >while now. It was only in a move to a new colo that this started > >happening. Which is why I suspect telco issues, but don't understand > >how that could be causing exceptions and reboots on the ARC. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Joel > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Marshall Morgan [mailto:marshall@netdoor.com] > >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:17 AM > >To: Discussion relating to the 3Com/US Robotics Total Control > >modemsystems. > >Subject: Re: *MORE INFO* RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? > >Major WTFhere. > > > > > >Downgrade the ARC code. > > > >System UpTime: 130d 09:05:50 > >System Version: V5.3.3/Non-Encr > > > >Marshall Morgan > > > >Internet Doorway, Inc (aka NETDOOR) > >http://www.netdoor.com > > > >601.969.1434 x28 | 800.952.1570 x28 | 601.969.3629 x28 | Fax > >601.969.3838 > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Joel - <mailto:jfox@foxcomputers.com> Fox Computers > >To: Discussion relating to the 3Com/US > ><mailto:usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> Robotics Total Control > >modemsystems. > >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 9:43 AM > >Subject: *MORE INFO* RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? Major > >WTF here. > > > > > >Yep, I was working that late - Wish this was one of Shannan's boxes. > > > >This morning, the ARC on this unit rebooted again. and absolutely > >every B-channel was local out-of-service. At the reboot, the ARC > >said this: > > > >EXCEPTION 0300 CRASH DUMP: > > > >GPRs: > >R0: 0x0065EC88 R1: 0x07F55E88 R2: 0x000F3200 R3: 0x41820114 > >R4: 0x07F55F68 R5: 0x00000003 R6: 0x00000006 R7: 0x0000000F > >R8: 0x00000000 R9: 0x00000000 R10: 0x0000000F R11: 0x00000006 > >R12: 0x0000003C R13: 0x000FD248 R14: 0x0099D9FC R15: 0x0099D9E0 > >R16: 0x0099D9E8 R17: 0x0099D9D4 R18: 0x0099D9DC R19: 0x0099D9EC > >R20: 0xFFFFFEFF R21: 0x00CC5FF0 R22: 0x00306F34 R23: 0x00C10220 > >R24: 0x00000000 R25: 0x014D9364 R26: 0x01E4F2B4 R27: 0x00000000 > >R28: 0x009D9070 R29: 0x00000000 R30: 0x000000FF R31: 0x01342E44 > > > >SPRs: > >CR: 0x20000400 XER: 0x20000000 LR: 0x0065EC88 CTR: > >0x005171BC > >SRR0: 0x00661FC0 SRR1: 0x00009030 DSISR: 0x40000000 DAR: > >0x41820157 > >DMISS: 0x41820150 DCMP: 0x80000006 HASH1: 0x00010800 HASH2: > >0x0001F7C0 > >IMISS: 0x00000000 ICMP: 0x00000000 RPA: 0x00000000 IABR: > >0x00000000 > > > >82660 Registers: > >Err Status 1: 0x00, Err Status 2: 0x00, CPU Err: 0x14, PCI Err: 0x06 > >CPU/PCI Addr: 0x00061EFC, Sys Error Addr: 0x0006E960 > > > >Call Stack: > > 0x00661FC0 (Exception return address - SRR0) > > 0x0065EC88 > > 0x0063B3F8 > > 0x00638594 > > 0x00306F88 > > 0x007F6BB4 > > 0x007F6E74 > > 0x002008D4 > > 0x0020024C > > 0x0020009C > > 0x000A95A0 > >The first 2000 bytes in the Stack follows > >0x83C10010 0x7C0803A6 0x8001001C 0x906CC040 0x38600001 > >0x3D80009A 0x48000010 0x38600000 0x4182000C 0x2C030000 > >0x90610008 0x483E4875 0x38A00040 0x8084BFC0 0x3C80009A > >0x387F0000 0x907E0004 0x483F5CC1 0x9143001C 0xB17E0000 > >0x614A4354 0x816B19C8 0x3D404143 0x83C30008 0x3D600089 > >0x4800005C 0x38600000 0x4182000C 0x2C0C0000 0x81810008 > >0x41820010 0x7C7F1B79 0x483F1605 0x9001001C 0x38A00040 > >0x93E10014 0x60845030 0x38C10008 0x93C10010 0x38600014 > >0x3C805544 0x9421FFE8 0x7C0802A6 0x4E800020 0x38210040 > >0x7C0803A6 0xBB010020 0x80010044 0x7D99C12E 0x39800000 > >0x4182000C 0x2C0B0000 0x7D79C02E 0x3B393514 0x3F200089 > >0x4181FF28 0x2C0C0000 0x81990010 0x483EA8ED 0x387E0000 > >0x483EA8F5 0x807E0008 0x483F1801 0x38800000 0x807F0000 > >0x40820018 0x2C0B0000 0x897F0004 0x83FE0008 0x4BFFC5E1 > >0x38A00002 0x7C6C5A14 0x81830008 0x389F0000 0x8163000C > >0x4082001C 0x7C1D6000 0x83AB0004 0x816B0000 0x618C6104 > >0x817E0008 0x3D80554D 0x994C024A 0x394A00FF 0x894C024A > >0x7D8C5A14 0x8163000C 0x81830008 0x41820050 0x7C7F1B79 > >0x483FEF9D 0x809D0000 0x83AA0008 0x814A0000 0x387C0000 > >0x81430008 0x996C0004 0x396B00FF 0x896C0004 0x81830008 > >0x418200D4 0x2C030000 0x408200DC 0x2C0A0000 0x8141000C > >0x3BC30000 0x483E609D 0x38800000 0x38790000 0x38A1000C > >0x3B3E0000 0x3B9C64A0 0x3F8000CE 0x408100EC 0x2C0A0000 > >0x815E0010 0x7FCC5A14 0x398C6550 0x3D8000CE 0x1D6B0024 > >0x572B063E 0x4180FFCC 0x2C1C0100 0x3B9C0001 0x4BFFF40D > >0x387F0000 0x38810008 0x9B810008 0x40820014 0x7C0BD800 > >0x7D6BD838 0x7FBB6030 0x7D7E58AE 0x578C077E 0x578BEEFE > >0x3BBC0000 0x7FC96214 0x3BFB0000 0x39292A9C 0x3B800001 > >0x3D200089 0x1D9B0530 0x573B063E 0x4181FFA0 0x7C0AF840 > >0x815D02DC 0x3BFF0001 0x3BDE0138 0x7D3CC12E 0x39200000 > >0x483F1961 0x38800000 0x7C7CC02E 0x483F7F15 0x38800020 > >0x41820020 0x2C030000 0x7C7CC02E 0x7F8C5A14 0x8163000C > >0x81830008 0x41820038 0x2C030000 0x483FF0C1 0x387A0000 > >0x808C00F8 0x7D8CF214 0x819B0000 0x3B7BD150 0x3B5A64A0 > >0x3BBC0000 0x3BDF0000 0x3F60009A 0x3F4000CE 0x41820080 > >0x2C0B0000 0x817C02DC 0x3BE00000 0x4800020C 0x4181FF74 > >0x7C0AD840 0x815D02DC 0x3B7B0001 0x3BFF0138 0x48000711 > >0x91410014 0xB161001A 0x7D4A602E 0x39600000 0x91610010 > >0x38610010 0x1D9E001C 0xB1810018 0x7D5D5214 0x1D4A0054 > >0x816B00F8 0x572A063E 0x7D6BFA14 0x817A0000 0x572C063E > >0x91840028 0x39800000 0x4082004C 0x2C0A0000 0x7D44C02E > >0x7C8C5A14 0x8163000C 0x81830008 0x41820064 0x2C030000 > >0x483FF17D 0x387C0000 0x808C00F8 0x7D8CFA14 0x819A0000 0x3B5AD > >BOOT PROM Version 1.16 (Built on June 9th, 1998 at 12:24:24) > >Loading kernel ... OK > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: S.Young [mailto:sky1@airmail.net] > >Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:59 AM > >To: Discussion relating to the 3Com/US Robotics Total Control > >modemsystems. > >Subject: Re: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? Major WTF here. > > > > > >Joel. > >You gotta be kidding me. My e-mail says it's 11:57 P.M. Please tell > >me you aren't still messing around with Total Control boxes at this > >hour. (Actually, it's 1:45 A.M. here in Dallas, I'm up feeding > >junior (6-month old son) ). The internet will survive, take a > >break!! > >If you need a spare/benchmark unit out there, let me know and I'll > >get one going your way. All I ask is that you pick up the freight on > >this "beast". > >You must not have got that unit from us, we never have any problems > >with the units WE send out. > >Go to Bed! > >Shannan Young > >SouthWest Data Technology, Inc. > >sky1(a)airmail.net > >www.swdt.com > >972-739-7010 > >972-739-7013 (Fax) > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Joel <mailto:jfox@foxcomputers.com> - Fox Computers > >To: Discussion relating to the <mailto:usr-tc@mailman.xmission.com> > >3Com/US Robotics Total Control modemsystems. > >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:54 PM > >Subject: RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? Major WTF here. > > > > > >Too funny - but thanks for the vote of confidence - this one has me > >stumped - but I'm certain I don't have 8 bad DSP's, that I'm sure of. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: matthew(a)the-spa.com [mailto:matthew@the-spa.com] > >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 11:23 PM > >To: usr-tc(a)mailman.xmission.com > >Subject: RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? Major WTF here. > > > > > > > >i had something similar but it was only on one card, and that card > >would show funny lights when you booted it up from day one and it > >just turned out to be a bad card. > > > > you have a whole bunch of cards all doing this, so i don't know what > >it could be. > > > > if i had this i would call you and just have you figure it out :) > > > > matthew > > > > > >---- Original Message ---- > >From: jfox(a)foxcomputers.com > >To: usr-tc(a)mailman.xmission.com > >Subject: RE: [USR-TC] Urgent Problem - Any Ideas? Major WTF here. > >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:06:49 -0500 > > > >> > >>Ok - here's the story. > >> > >>Just set up a chassis that has 3.5.109 on the DSP's, 5.3.110 on the > >>ARC, 8.6.3 on the NMC. Running 8 PRI's the telco says are > >configured > >>on a DMS100. > >> > >>Loaded factory defaults on everything and configured it up. The > >unit > >>started taking calls, everything looked good. Got up to about 100 > >>users on. Walked away from it. > >> > >>After about 2 hours, came back to it, and no callers. in session > >>monitor in TCM, the (most) B-channels on all 8 PRI's showed "Local > >>out of service". All except on the 8th PRI, one caller remained > >>connected. I also noticed the D-ALM light intermittently going red > >>on some of the PRI's. As I watched, slowly the B-channels all > >>started changing to "Idle" and "in service". But not all at once, > >on > >>any give PRI, I'd have the D up, and 19 of the B's, with any 4 of > >the > >>B's still "local out of service". > >> > >>Talked to the Telco, they said everything was up and the B-channels > >>were taken down on our end. > >> > >>At this time, I noticed a message on the console port of the ARC > >that > >>said: > >>At 17:48:04, Facility "GWC Modem Driver", Level "CRITICAL":: > >>callline->callstate = 9 > >> > >>Now, I've seen similar behavior when the switch type was not > >correct. > >> Without help from the Telco, I tried changing the switch type on > >the > >>trunk settings to NI2 (which turned out to be the correct answer > >last > >>time something like this happened). Then rebooted all of the DSP's. > >> > >>Once I did this - the D-channels stopped dropping and all the > >>B-channels were back, callers started getting on again. Looked > >good. > >> > >>2 1/2 hours later, checked on the box. Only 3 DSP's had callers. > >At > >>this point, noticed on the terminal, that the ARC had rebooted. > >>Scrolling up in HyperTerminal revealed that some type of exception > >>had happened, and the ARC had rebooted. (Turned on text capture on > >>HyperTerminal at this point). > >> > >>15 minutes later, all of the callers disappeared. Checked, and all > >>B-channels were down. Thinking it might be ARC related, I gave the > >>ARC a reboot command. Immediately on giving it the reboot - this is > >>what I saw: > >> > >>HiPer>> reboot > >>You have requested to Reboot the system > >>Please confirm the request.(No/Yes):y > >> > >>Rebooting.... > >>At 21:07:44, Facility "Configurator", Level "INFORMATION":: Received > >>a CFG_SERVICE_CLOSED_MSG message. Administrator Network Service > >>telnetd has been disabled. > >>At 21:07:44, Facility "GWC Modem Driver", Level "CRITICAL":: > >>callline->callstate = 1 > >> > >>At 21:07:44, Facility "GWC Modem Driver", Level "CRITICAL":: > >>callline->callstate = 1 > >> > >>At 21:07:44, Facility "GWC Modem Driver", Level "CRITICAL":: > >>callline->callstate = 1 > >> > >> > >> > >>Immediately after this, I pulled up session monitor on one of the > >>DSPs. And about 10 seconds later all of the B-channels changed from > >>"local out of service" to "in service". > >> > >>Once the ARC rebooted, getting fast-busy's dialing in. Checked > >other > >>DSP's and they were all again "local out of service". > >> > >>On the 1st DSP, did an Actions/Commands->Software->Restore and all > >of > >>it's B-channels went "in-service". > >> > >>Did a restore on the rest of the DSP's, and all the B-channels went > >>in-service everywhere, but still getting fast-busy. Gave it about 3 > >>minutes, still fast-busy. > >> > >>On a hunch - did a Hardware reset on the First 4 DSP's. Almost > >>instantly, the 7th and 8th DSP's started taking calls. > >>(?!)Interestingly though - I still get a fast busy when I dial it > >>myself, and the first DSP just got two utilization lights lit and > >>then rebooted itself. Shortly thereafter, most of the B-channels > >>went out of service again and the callers dropped off. But the ARC > >>isn't giving any errors at the console port at this moment. > >> > >>So, for lack of any ability to get and keep users connected, I just > >>reset all the DSP's to the DMS100 switch type, and rebooted the > >>cards. Immediately, callers started connecting. Session Monitor > >>shows EVERY B-channel is up. But for how long? > >> > >>Is the switch-type so far wrong that it just can't function > >>continuously? Is the ARC fried? Is this chassis haunted? > >> > >>Nothing I can say but: WTF? > >> > >>Anyone have any ideas? > >> > >>Thanks, > >> > >>Joel > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>USR-TC mailing list > >>USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com > >>http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >USR-TC mailing list > >USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc > > > >_______________________________________________ > >USR-TC mailing list > >USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >USR-TC mailing list > >USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com > >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > USR-TC mailing list > USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc > > _______________________________________________ > USR-TC mailing list > USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc > _______________________________________________ USR-TC mailing list USR-TC(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/usr-tc

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