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Robert Palmer
by Jason Sheldon 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Robert Palmer has died aged 54, of a heart attack. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3142710.stm J Jason Sheldon Plexus Digital Solutions CD-ROM & DVD Replication & Duplication, Multimedia CD & DVD content Authoring, Custom Printed Recordable Media. <http://www.digital-solutions.co.uk/> http://www.digital-solutions.co.uk Telephone & Fax: 0870 760 7654 Outside of UK: Tel: +44(0)1902 366221 Fax: +44(0)1902 366236 ============================================================================ ============== This message has scanned with Norton Antivirus 2003 using virus definitions updated daily ============================================================================ ==============

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Re: Police Digest, Vol 7, Issue 40
by M 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

I agree with Jim and Christie. We just have to wait until the live stuff comes out. This album will take a long time to grow on some people ( as long as BND did) By the way I don't apologize for my opinion as some people on this list feel they should. I have spoken to other people outside this list and some have shared even cruder remarks about what a disappointment this new album is. I still can't decide what song to hum to at least. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Andy Summers in LA tonight (Friday)
by Steve Roberts 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

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Re: Review
by M 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

nice try FRED but even with the interview, the album is horrible!!! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Sacred Love Rolling Stone Review
by Fred Berthelot 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

"Sting has been so famous for so long and done so much -- the Police, the rain forest, the tantric sex (or was it?), the luxury-car commercial -- he has become easy to undervalue as purely a musician. The radiant Sacred Love is a vivid and frequently gorgeous reminder that Gordon Sumner is first and foremost a talented singer-songwriter. Sting clearly studied at the hyperintelligent, musically ambitious school of Paul Simon and Joni Mitchell, but he has consistently infused his postgraduate work with something his own: a wide-open global consciousness combined with a cool British reserve. Sacred Love, the follow-up to 1999's Brand New Day, finds Sting in a soulful mood. "Send Your Love" pulsates like some twenty-first-century take on classic Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye, with a taste of "Desert Rose" for extra flavor. The gospel-tinged love song "Whenever I Say Your Name" finds Sting trading lines effectively with the Queen of Hip-hop Soul, Mary J. Blige. Sting and co-producer Kipper have smartly stripped back the polished wall of sound that has sometimes swamped Sting's solo work. The characteristically literate "This War" rocks as convincingly as anything Sting has done since back when Stewart Copeland was keeping his time. In spots -- such as the sleekly trance-y "Never Coming Home" -- Sacred samples some of the strengths that made the Police so arresting in the first place. Sting seems like a man focused on the future but drawing more freely upon his past with heart and soul. Sacred or profane, that's hard not to love." DAVID WILD (RS 933, October 16, 2003)

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suggestions
by foxie 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

for those of you looking to investigate new singer/songwriters, allow me to recommend: joe henry joseph arthur rich --- Michelle Manoni <mlmanoni(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > JP, > > Respecting your opinion about not buying the album > based on other people's opinions on this list, I > only want to say that I bought the album, have > played it on my computer while working (not the best > quality), like some songs, dislike and skip over > others (after a couple of listens), such as Send > Your Love remix, Shape of My Heart (live), and now > Moon Over Bourbon Street. > > I really like many of the other songs on this album. > This is my own personal opinion, not swayed by the > list opinion. I don't feel this album flows as well > as others, such as 'Ten Summoners Tales' or 'Soul > Cages', but I still like most of the songs. His > harmonies are wonderful, and his song-writing > ability still amazes me, especially how he creates > the feeling and mood with the music, as well as the > lyrics. > > But then again, that's only my opinion. Sting is > not God, and there are many other talented artists > in this world, both new and old, many of which I > listen to, and oh yes, buy their cds! > > By the way, I'm a little confused. You said you > proudly didn't buy this album, yet you "will > continue to skip the over produced (and badly > produced) studio crap". Do you own the album or > not? > > Ciao. > Michelle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim and Christine > To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com > Sent: 9/26/03 8:17:47 AM > Subject: RE: [Police] Growing > > > >From a proud but disappointed fan who has decided > not to buy this album: > > Can we also conclude that the CD grows on you > after you > Lock yourself in a room with no other sensory > stimulation but this album playing over and over for > 5 days > Turn up the bass and turn down the mids (sure the > barely audible vocals become intelligible when you > do this but thats what liner notes are for) > Sublimate Kippers drum loops with Vinnies live > drums in your mind > Receive validation from other people on the list > that you really do like the album > > I thought that radio already fulfilled this roll of > playing songs over and over and over until you > decide you finally do like them and decide to buy > them. The problem with sticking with an artist and > forcing yourself to make their taste your own is > that it gives you very little time to appreciate new > artist who might be as talented as Sting *gasp*. > > I apologize for the nasty tone of this e-mail. I > dont mean to offend I just want to get my opinion > across. Personally, I will continue to skip the > over produced (and badly produced) studio crap and > wait to here the songs raw when he does them live. > That is when he really shines. > > Ciao. > > JP > > -----Original Message----- > From: police-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:police-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On > Behalf Of HM > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:39 AM > To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: [Police] Growing > > Can I conclude the CD is growing on those of us list > members who had the priviledge to listen to it so > far? > > We start relationships with certain types of people > and hope it is growing on us. > We move into a house in our favourite area and hope > living in this house will grow on us. > We buy a car of a certain brand even if it does not > feel right from the start - hoping the drive will > grow on us. > We buy clothing of our favourite brand in the trust > it will soon feel right on our skin. > And we buy music in this trust the songs will grow > on us. > DON'T WE? > > Where are the proud but disappointed Sting fans that > have decided NOT to buy this album? > > Let's not forget about the future and get on with > the thought that this album would have been made > available on emusic right away. You could purchase > each song separately for 99 cents a piece - which > ones would lead the download list?? > Would you download a second track after being > disappointed about the first one? With single-track > download, the album character disappears - where is > the chance for a musician to tell a story? How can > then "a list of tracks" grow on us? > > Thinking of this, I want to forget about that > future, get on with the present and hope that albums > will always remain being available as a whole > "book". > > Just another 2 cents I could not hold back. > Holger > > _______________________________________________ > Police mailing list > Police(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

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Re: [Police] Growing
by Anne Robinson 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Holger your thoughts were so beautifully articulated and provided a perspective I hadn't thought of before. I, personally, like the album very much and am allowing Sting to take me on the journey he intended for us to experience. ~Anne "HM" <2ho(a)gmx.net> Sent by: To: <police(a)mailman.xmission.com> police-bounces(a)mailman.x cc: mission.com Subject: [Police] Growing 09/26/2003 05:38 AM Can I conclude the CD is growing on those of us list members who had the priviledge to listen to it so far? We start relationships with certain types of people and hope it is growing on us. We move into a house in our favourite area and hope living in this house will grow on us. We buy a car of a certain brand even if it does not feel right from the start - hoping the drive will grow on us. We buy clothing of our favourite brand in the trust it will soon feel right on our skin. And we buy music in this trust the songs will grow on us. DON'T WE? Where are the proud but disappointed Sting fans that have decided NOT to buy this album? Let's not forget about the future and get on with the thought that this album would have been made available on emusic right away. You could purchase each song separately for 99 cents a piece - which ones would lead the download list?? Would you download a second track after being disappointed about the first one? With single-track download, the album character disappears - where is the chance for a musician to tell a story? How can then "a list of tracks" grow on us? Thinking of this, I want to forget about that future, get on with the present and hope that albums will always remain being available as a whole "book". Just another 2 cents I could not hold back. Holger _______________________________________________ Police mailing list Police(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/police

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RE: [Police] Growing
by Jim and Christine 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Michele, I appreciate your opposing viewpoint. I havenÂt bought a studio recording of StingÂs since Ten SummonerÂs Tales. I lumped all of his studio efforts together as the Âstudio crapÂ. I will continue to purchase the live albums as I find these much better. Interestingly enough, I have been able to listen to most of the new album from websites that have been posted by members of this mailing list. Maybe I should post a review of the album from someone who has chosen not to buy it. JP -----Original Message----- From: police-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:police-bounces@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Michelle Manoni Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 8:43 AM To: police(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: [Police] Growing JP, Respecting your opinion about not buying the album based on other people's opinions on this list, I only want to say that I bought the album, have played it on my computer while working (not the best quality), like some songs, dislike and skip over others (after a couple of listens), such as Send Your Love remix, Shape of My Heart (live), and now Moon Over Bourbon Street. I really like many of the other songs on this album. This is my own personal opinion, not swayed by the list opinion. I don't feel this album flows as well as others, such as 'Ten Summoners Tales' or 'Soul Cages', but I still like most of the songs. His harmonies are wonderful, and his song-writing ability still amazes me, especially how he creates the feeling and mood with the music, as well as the lyrics. But then again, that's only my opinion. Sting is not God, and there are many other talented artists in this world, both new and old, many of which I listen to, and oh yes, buy their cds! By the way, I'm a little confused. You said you proudly didn't buy this album, yet you "will continue to skip the over produced (and badly produced) studio crap". Do you own the album or not? Ciao. Michelle

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Re: [Police] The CD is growing on me.....
by Stingfan222＠aol.com 26 Sep '03

26 Sep '03

Funny, I've NEVER been one to mess with the bass, high and mid buttons and find myself doing it a lot on this CD. I guess I was just trying to hear more bass and just started messing around with it and voila' a new CD! I totally love "Never Coming Home," but the drum machine on that gets to me big time. Too bad they had to ruin the song with it. Glad the CD's coming around for some of you (as it did for me)! Michelle In a message dated 9/25/03 8:11:12 PM, snsv(a)yahoo.com writes: << Inside and Sacred Love are starting to grow. Mary J. Blige's voice messed up "Whenever I say Your Name". I still love Dead Man's Rope, Stolen Car and The Book of my Life is one of Sting's best songs ever. Forget about the Future is cool and jazzy. This War rocks. I still find Kipper's loud drum loops a bit annoying BUT boost the bass and highs, lower the mids, and it helps balance a CD that deserved a better production and final mix! Peace Trini >>

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Anti-swap CD hits the racks - Applies to Sacred Love
by Trini 25 Sep '03

25 Sep '03

From.... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usatoday/20030923/tc_usatoda… It seems Sting is the next test case for this experiment. The album quality does not sound good on my computer and I now understand why, a CD can only hold 70 - 80 mins of music. There are two versions of these songs on this CD and the version for the PC does not have fidelity with over 65 mins of music on this Japanese release. It simply cannot fit teo copies. Sorry, another mistake from the King of Pain. The quotes from the articles below summarize the problem and you should be able to decipher the problem with the PC audio tracks. "Windows PC, the disc installs software to keep the music secure, and an interactive menu pops up with several links"..... same thing on this CD. "His CD, meanwhile, offers a glimpse of the direction the music industry is taking to prevent rampant piracy. The disc has two sets of music tracks: one set of "encrypted" songs that can be handled by CD players but cannot be ripped on computers, and a duplicate set of tracks in the Windows Media format. These can be downloaded from the CD to a computer and then transferred to portable devices or recorded to home CDs. But these "secure digital" tracks cannot be played on another computer should they be uploaded to the Net. "The whole concept was to create a legally licensed structure" for computer use of recorded music, says William Whitmore of SunnComm, which designed the anti-copy technology. In CD players, the disc plays normally. When put into a Macintosh (news - web sites) or Windows PC, the disc installs software to keep the music secure, and an interactive menu pops up with several links, including one to copy some or all of the Windows Media tracks to your hard drive." --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software

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