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RE: [Orb] The ORB - Mummie Don't, please don't anymore...
by Masciana-F06, Jon 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

Please pardon me, I rarely contribute to the list, but avidly follow the Orb's every move. I just had to contribute on this topic. I agree with some of Don Gagen's points below. Yes, The Orb (and KLF) did invent Ambient House. Yes, Mummie Don't is basically evidence of that fact. I am not sure when that track was recorded but I imagine it was sometime before 3AM Eternal? Maybe part of the Space Sessions that Alex was removed from...who knows? Anyway, the point is, that was quite an ear opener for the disc and definitely reminiscent of that time. I was impressed just by the fact that it was unearthed from the archive and placed on Orbessions. However, I am not going to argue the fact that Orbsessions is a hodge-podge mixture of just about everything under the sun, and is farily sub-par. The disc started out on a very promising note and ended with a desperate whimper. "Sail" was by far one of the best songs on the disc that the Orb had nothing to do with. Where did that song come from and why haven't we heard it up until this point? What's the story behind it? We've all head Yungle before - outtake from Cydonia. Not really that exciting, but not horrible. Certainly not worth listening to for 11 minutes, and we've already downloaded it off the Internet. As for the rest of the disc, my only question is why? The tracks were mostly dull, uninteresting and boring. The major disappointment about the disc was that Mummie Don't was placed on it. That track set a standard for the rest of the disc which it clearly failed to live up to. Orbessions volume 2 could be interesting - but hodge podge mixtures of unreleased tracks from various eras don't work for an album, particularly for the Orb (Alex, are you on this list???) "Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld" and UF Orb were great albums because, collectively, they were brilliant pieces of work. If Alex wants to collect various tracks from a certain era of the Orb, then that might be a better way to do Orbsessions. Let's face it - "Okie Dokie" versus "Ultraworld" are recorded by different bands. Don't get me wrong, I like Okie Dokie, and I like the Paterson/Fehlmann combination - I think it's probably the best thing Paterson has recorded since Orblivion. But I had higher hopes for Orbsessions. The Thrash contributions are sorely missed, and any Orb album should be a journey in my opinion. Thoughts? Thanks, Jon -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+jmasciana06=gsm.uci.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+jmasciana06=gsm.uci.edu@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of marcolphus Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 11:30 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] The ORB - Mummie Don't, please don't anymore... "Don Gagen" <DGagen(a)EnsembleStudios.com> napisał(a): > >I'm listening to it now and it's f-ing brilliant! I'm not one to start flame wars, but for anyone to say the whole album is crap is an ignorant comment or just elitist snobbery. Maybe you don't fully understand that tracks like Mommy Don't, and Pluto Calling were made when House Music and sampling was still in its infancy. The first House record was released in 1986. The first use of samples in House was by Todd Terry in 86 or 87. Ambient House was basically invented by the KLF and Orb around 87 or 88. These tracks might be dated by today's standards, but at the time they the bleeding, freaking edge of the genre. It's hard for me to understand how anyone can listen to these tracks let alone the whole album and call it crap. It reminds me of when people saw the first impressionist and cubist paintings and called them crap. Orbsessions was meant to be crap - it's a compilation of old rejected songs. I like some of the tracks (Mummie Don't, Pluto Calling, Yungle or Eurofen), but most of them are crap (especially Steel Horse, Something Like, Sun Of and 73.5) and one is not Orb at all (Sail). I wonder what crap we will find on Volume Two... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERIA.PL | Kliknij po wiecej >>> http://link.interia.pl/f18c1 _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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RE: [Orb] re: Orbsessions
by John Goerner 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

For what its worth im selling some Elvis sweat on ebay. Thanks for looking. -----Original Message----- From: Alan Evil (lists) [mailto:zmailinglists@psychicreform.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 4:00 PM To: orblist Subject: [Orb] re: Orbsessions Maybe they're releasing crap because they know that a lot of you will buy crap just because it has the name "Orb" associated with it and therefore they can sell this crap to you and pay their house note/studio fees/cocaine dealer/etc. I'm giving up on the revolutionary artists from the 80's and 90's. They're all pumping out utter shit that seems an insult to fans or people with taste. I kind of think marketing these "back 2 mine" type albums at full price is sort of like selling Elvis's sweat in little bottles. It's bullshit. _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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Where?
by David Doree 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

Where's Thrash? Nicht die welt! ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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RE: Orb Digest, Vol 32, Issue 8
by David Collins 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

Orbsessions Why all the Orbsessions bashing? First of all, if it was grade A material, the songs would have be released on a proper studio album...this is the scraps off the cutting room floor. What did you expect? "Archived" means old. Of course it all sounds dated. Furthermore, Volume 1 indicates that we'll probably see a couple more of these. Most of these songs sounds like they were around the orblivion stage....who knows maybe volume 2 will include more songs from the earlier 1993 era. Eitherway, I don't know the history of the thrash thing, but it sounds like all the songs on this album don't include any thrash. I like the album for what it is, and I appreciate that it was released the same time as around okie dokie, so we get some old and new stuff. Hope to hear the other volumes sooner than later!

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RE: [Orb] The ORB - Mummie Don't, please don't anymore...
by Don Gagen 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

I'm listening to it now and it's f-ing brilliant! I'm not one to start flame wars, but for anyone to say the whole album is crap is an ignorant comment or just elitist snobbery. Maybe you don't fully understand that tracks like Mommy Don't, and Pluto Calling were made when House Music and sampling was still in its infancy. The first House record was released in 1986. The first use of samples in House was by Todd Terry in 86 or 87. Ambient House was basically invented by the KLF and Orb around 87 or 88. These tracks might be dated by today's standards, but at the time they the bleeding, freaking edge of the genre. It's hard for me to understand how anyone can listen to these tracks let alone the whole album and call it crap. It reminds me of when people saw the first impressionist and cubist paintings and called them crap. ________________________________ From: orb-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of marcolphus Sent: Mon 10/17/2005 1:31 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] The ORB - Mummie Don't, please don't anymore... RMStringer napisal(a): > To me this whole album sucks ass. I agree with you in 100%. Orbsessions is really crap... -- == http://members.tripod.com/markolf ==== complete fluke discography == == blog marcolphusa ======================= http://markolf.jogger.pl == ---------------------------------------------------------------------- INTERIA.PL | Kliknij po wiecej >>> http://link.interia.pl/f18c1 _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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A little offtopic -> what's the classical music/sample used in "It's grim up north"?
by Per Christian Frankplads 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

I'm sorry for posting it here, but I've looked all over without finding the answer: What's the classical music/sample used in "It's grim up north" by The KLF? On the single it's titled "Jerusalem on the moors". I would love to hear the original classical version of this, so if anyone would have any info, please email me directly and/or to the list. Thank you :) Per Christian Frankplads (listen to my radioshow "experimenta" on my webpage) (WWW) http://www.experimenta.nu (EMAIL) pcf(a)pobox.com (ADR) schaeffersgt. 12, n-0558 oslo, norway (MOB) +4791528245 (FAX) +447092037927 (ICQ) 2888815

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The ORB - Mummie Don't, please don't anymore...
by RMStringer 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

WOW! what a bunch of recycled crap!! Sounds like it is from one of the chill out sessions. Very uncreative with the KLF chill out samples from "3 a.m. Somewhere Out Of Beaumont" This is what we have been waiting for a few years now?? What a let down. To me this whole album sucks ass. I mean he lost it a few years ago and the best thing that came out of the last album was the hybrid mix of "The Orb - From a distance (hybrid's meadow ladies mix)" I cant believe this crap was put out. Better days gone by, water flowing under the bridge should be their theme song IMHO. RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN

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Moondog
by RMStringer 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

Does anyone have his email address still? I cant remember the person's name that made soul seek, but I remember that her was a member of this list. RMStringer ******************** "To open the eternal worlds, to open the immortal eyes Of man Inwards, into the worlds of thought, into Eternity". ITN

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Meat Beat Manifesto Live recording broadcast tonight!
by Gavin Miller 18 Oct '05

18 Oct '05

www.wluw.org 10:00 pm cst >>tonite on abstract science: exclusive meat beat manifesto recorded live at metro! Don't miss this ONE-TIME ONLY broadcast of Meat Beat Manifesto's live performance recorded at the Metro, June 22, 2005. It's a special thank you to all of the listeners who have pledged their financial support during our annual August pledge drive. Note: this set will not be archived! tune in tonite at 10pm, CST! by radio: tune in to 88.7fm (chicago listeners) by web: www.wluw.org (listen live) ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

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Eurofen
by Keith Clancy 17 Oct '05

17 Oct '05

If everyone remebers Eurofen is a remix of Centuries that was featured in that Badorb Sampler mix session that LX did a few years back at the beginning of Badorb (that session also featured a crap load of the samples found on the Tino Breaks albums). keith The Vapourtreatment - Modern Electronic Music Beats for the mind for the feet Presented by DJ Datura and Dubwave http://www.geocities.com/radiovt/ __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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