April 2003 - Orb - mailman.xmission.com

depleted humanitarium...
by Dgowc1st＠aol.com 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

In a message dated 4/1/2003 2:15:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, orb-request(a)mailman.xmission.com writes: > No, let's focus on something > really important to life on planet Earth. Let's talk about > the Orb. geeze, that seems somewhat appropriate, seeing that this list IS dedicated to , uhhmmm, lets see..., oh darn, what was it again?.... oh yea, THE ORB... thanks UK, Australia, for standing with us.... God Bless The Troops

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OT OT Re: The Ultimate Taboo: Kinky Chicks with Animals! dodqhyloCehoovrxwk1qhw
by Alan 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

In this time of war it's really nice to know there are young women having sex with animals for your pleasure! (Even if they're stupid enough to use "there" instead of "they're"). I wonder how I got on this spam list to begin with... Cheers to those scolding the "police" on the list. I think everyone has been pretty good about warning what the subject of their OT rants are. I'd again recommend that anyone who is aggravated by the number of these off topic posts switch their subscription to the digest instead of individual e-mails. You get two e-mails at most per day (usually just one) and all you have to do is scroll. It's all fine as long as no one is posting with html (which hasn't happened in weeks, come to think of it). The flipside is it's easier to hit "delete" when you see the topic of an individual e-mail. If anyone doubts there are innocent people being violently slaughtered by the US military, take a look at this: http://212.238.144.194/war/ Be VERY WARNED that the pictures are graphic. The two saddest to me are the little boy with his brains blown out and the little girl missing both legs and an arm (she's at least bandaged up). They're all horrible. At least this "war on terrorism" will be just as quick and successful as the "war on drugs" so we'll know... that... oh, wait. www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat. ----- Original Message ----- From: tressa To: dodqhyloCehoovrxwk1qhw Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:06 AM Subject: The Ultimate Taboo: Kinky Chicks with Animals! dodqhyloCehoovrxwk1qhw Yee Ha, I'll Ride em cowboy, I ain't know much about school or working but I do know what I like. It's fucking on my farm! I love riding bareback naked on a young buck while getting fucked in the ass..mm mm God that sounds good right about now..Why don'tcha come on down and grease me up..Don't let the dogs and horses bother you..I love when there aound! P.S. Don't give my site out - it's for special fans of farm sex only IT'S MY FARM MY RULES - PLAY WITH ME YA'LL GONE

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OT OT Twins of Evil PLUS on topic sampling question
by Alan 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

I often marvel at how weird this world is. I found this music by a random search for "Twins of Evil" trying to research a reference in an article about some movie I'll never see. "Harum Scarum" is particularly shocking if you just happened to have listened to "Cornerstone" by Styx a million times when you were a teenager. This leads me to re-pose the big question about sampling to the group: When you hear a blatant sample from a song you loved as a child, how do you react to it? For some people, many of the Orb sounds are something they've heard before (personally I usually have had a reverse occurence and I don't think that counts) so if this is you, what do/did you think about hearing something you've heard before in a different context? The reason I ask is that a small percentage of people are really offended by samples. They hear something they recognize from another song and they hate it. My own generalization about these people is they tend to hate unfaithful covers of songs, they don't like "jam" bands, their haircuts are ten to twenty years out of date, and they find anything that hasn't come out of the radio in their car as suspect. www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat. Message: 9 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 21:24:27 -0800 From: "kim" <kim(a)twinsofevil.com> Subject: RE: [Orb] OT OT Twins of Evil To: "What were the skies like when you were young?" <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <IDEBLGCIGAOGFDLNIADDIEGFGCAA.kim(a)twinsofevil.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" I uploaded some more songs to www.twinsofevil.com The first two tracks, "Harum Scarum" (Styx samples) and "Dance of the Damned" are older, while the last four tracks were done this year. I'm particularly fond of "When Voices Rise". If anyone checks these out (which would be awesome), I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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Re: [Orb] OT OT Twins of Evil PLUS on topic sampling question
by Ben May 02 Apr '03

02 Apr '03

>This leads me to re-pose the big question about sampling to the group: >When >you hear a blatant sample from a song you loved as a child, how do you >react >to it? Personally, I think it's cool. This idea that every song that comes out must be a completely new musical idea is both asking a lot of musicians as well as just plain impractical. I mean how can you ask a musician to avoid making his music sound ANYTHING like any other song, especially then these artists have been influenced by existing music. They would end up spending all of their time listening to others' music to make sure their is sufficiently different! Or you would end up with nothing but merzebow-like noise... People have spent hundreds of years trying to emulate Bach. Does that mean their music is inherently bad, or just that Bach's was really really good? ;) >The reason I ask is that a small percentage of people are really offended >by >samples. They hear something they recognize from another song and they >hate >it. I can understand this from the perspective of the musician. Sort of a "He's stolen my idea!" kind of self righteous, petulant reaction. But from a fan? How can you hate something simply because it sounds like something else which you like? One would think that the presence of familiar sounds would predispose you to liking the thing more, not less... I think it also depends on the extent of the ripoff. Like the KLF's god save the queen... It was just absurd of them to do that without at least getting Abba's permission first. I mean, they play like a 40 second clip of the song exactly as is. That's a little disrespectful. But the beastie boys sampling a 6 second led zep drum beat? I would argue that it's such a small part of the sonic palate of the new song, and such an obvious homage to the original song, that that is totally acceptable. >My own generalization about these people is they tend to hate >unfaithful covers of songs, they don't like "jam" bands, their haircuts are >ten to twenty years out of date, and they find anything that hasn't come >out >of the radio in their car as suspect. Hahaha! One could also try and find parallels between such jam bands and or songs made by them. Like I bet you could find a live phish recording and a live dead recording which for at least 10 minutes are sonically indistinguishable, even tho they are playing "different songs." Plus, is anyone here going to stand up and argue that 98 Degrees, the Backstreet Boys, etc are truly "musically unique?" I mean come on, these pop bands are concieved and controlled by corporate entities all trying to sell the same products to the same audience. The similarities between these groups is apalling, even if they may not share the exact same sampled rif ($10 goes to the person who finds such a rif/drum loop which two of these groups share! :P) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: [Orb] OT: 26 mixes 4 cash
by JASON HICKS 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

Yeah it's nice to finally have all of these brilliant mixes in one place, much like the I would imagine the Auntie Aubreys would function for the non-fanatical Orb fan. I also really like how disc 1 is more mellow and disc 2 is a little more weird/abrasive, which is a nice way to showcase the different aspects of the Cornish madman. Awesome collection. Jason >From: Rene <bay_addict(a)yahoo.com> >Reply-To: What were the skies like when you were >young?<orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: [Orb] OT: 26 mixes 4 cash >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:23:02 -0800 (PST) > > > > anyone bought this Aphex Twin remix discs yet? great stuff. it's nice to >have the Curve remix on CD. my first cd i've bought in a long time. >-rene > > > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! >_______________________________________________ >Orb mailing list >Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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OT OT Twins of Evil
by Alan 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

This is probably not everyone's cup of tea but I had downloaded the songs that used to be available at www.twinsofevil.com and had burnt them to a disc with a bunch of Beck, System 7, and other stuff on it when they started playing while I was working. Tons of fun, especially the one that sampled Styx. There's only one song up there now but it's really good. Maybe you would let the rest of the list in on the other cuts, Kim? www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat.

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RE: [Orb] depleted humanitarium
by Ben May 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

>This is the orb list, not an alt.binaries.fox.cnn.war.iraq.net.com.org >SITE! That's not a site. Its a newsgroup. Big difference. Does that one even exist? :-P >Can we just talk >about all things Orb. Well technically as this is an unmoderated mailing list, we can talk about anything we want. You can always delete messages which you aren't interested in, and so far people have been pretty good about maintaining relevant subject headers so it should be obvious to you which messages are off topic. I hate to advocate people leaving the list, but that's also always an option. Basically the answer to this, as childish as it may sound, is "We can talk about whatever the heck we want, and it's encumbant upon YOU to decide what to screen out." That's simply the nature of the medium. >We can watch all this shit on TV, FOX, CNN, BBC, >whatever the station is, it will be on there. Why not just leave the war >out >of this list for the duration. Well personally I find individual opinions FAR more interesting and relevant than the output of any bullshit news channel. So I for one say continue the discussion. You know stringer, it's interesting to me that so far everyone who has presented arguments against the war has been more than willing to talk about these issues, whereas you who support the war (I am guessing that you do, given your previous responses) seem to want to stifle anyone's opinion that doesn't match yours. Its cool if you want to disagree, in fact I would hope that if your beliefs differ from mine or others that you feel free to voice them, and I am interested in hearing them. But please be respectful of others opinions and dont try to to stifle debate. :) PS: For the record, the content provided by any and all of the news media outlets you listed above does not count as "debate" in my book. In fact I would be more inclined to listen to what is said on this list than what is said in any news media outlet... _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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apology online/ CSI vs. Orb
by Lucas Strauss 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

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OT: Subliminal Advertising
by kim 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

This is way off topic, but at least it's not about the war plus it's damn funny :) Make sure to have your speakers on. Enjoy! http://albinoblacksheep.com/flash/subliminal.php

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re: moderators
by Mike VandeVelde 01 Apr '03

01 Apr '03

Hey well how's it goin all y'all. I don't know but jeeze I'm tired of all the 'keep yer yap shut about yer ftp site' and the 'shouldn't that thrash freak keep his mouth shut too' and espeshully the 'no talkin bout the war now'. I'm not gonna unsubsciberate or nothin, cuz there's no better place to get the straight goods on the orb, i'll tell ya whut. But god damn for an unmoderated list there shur is a lot of 'police action' goin round. It almost makes the place down right boring. Not that anyone's asking but i'd vote for a steady stream of ftp addresses, if at least to keep any noobs in the know (and sure along with tips about what archive means exactly), plus whatever the hell came upon thrash's mind last night after he stumbled home from wherever, plus some actual critical thinking about what kind of forget-numbering-them-it's-perpetual-now-motherfucker war we're careening into. I for one am sick to death of the medicating pablum they keep spewing out on the television and have been hunting for as many different alternative views as I can get my hands on, and if people hadn't already spoken up about it much more eloquently than i could you'd be hearing more about it from me. Go and look around, follow some of those links that have been posted, search for some of your own. Route around the censorship that's filtering your experience. If you really think that the invasion and occupation of Iraq is a good idea, then that's much more of a problem than some off topic posting. Get informed. Then at least you could tell someone to knock it off with a humiliating ripost that would make everyone else reluctant to bring it up again. That would keep it interesting. Best of luck ;-(

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