September 2013 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

3rd Annual WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta & /Potter Invitational
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Greetings Montgomery List sailors! You are ALL invited to the: 3rd Annual WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta & Ran-Tan / Potter Yacht Invitational January 17 - 19th, 2014 at Lake Pleasant,Arizona Our gracious hosts are the Arizona Yacht Club at their Birthday Regatta! 50 + years of sailing in the desert. The YC will provide the racing program as a part of the AYC Birthday Regatta and 2014 Leukemia Cup Regatta. For 2013 we have invited the Potter's - P-14, P-15, P-19 and 'any other' boats that 'started life' as a Potter! (You know who you guys and girls are.) A challenge goes out to all Potter sailors near and far - come have some fun. In 2013 we had the second largest fleet with 12 boats racing! Let's show them what a LARGE fleet of SMALL boats looks like! Two or Three days of winter racing in the 'usually' warm Arizona desert! Friday racing is optional if you need the travel time. Camping or resorts - the choice of accommodations is up to you. Slips are available and group dining is on tap. Dinners/Breakfasts hosted by the AYC and LPSC are available or on your own - We do Wild Horse West as Friday Dinner as a tradition. (great chili size, beer, jukebox and pool table) Our goal is to educate and develop sailing skills via a racing and lecture format - Guest Speakers are jumping on the wagon - a full list to come shortly. If you have a personality in mind - contact me - I will see what I can do. Contact Gary O. at _gilasailr(a)aol.com_ (mailto:gilasailr@aol.com) for any questions you may have about facilities/Lodging/Entries etc. The Event web page will be updated shortly. See you at Lake Pleasant January 17-19, 2014 PS - Dry storage facilities are available if you will be sailing later in February at Lake Havasu. I have a group of pictures and permission to post from the 2013 event - check it out at the 'Soon to Be Up Web Page!'

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by Conbert Benneck 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Hi David and M-ers, Here are the photos you requested. All the bits-and-pieces you see in our box were selected to reflect how we lived and ate on board; which included wine glasses, and a corkscrew, of course! Weren't you aware that an M15 has a nice area for a wine cellar on board? Charlie Mathews was the designer and builder of the original "Tool Box Galley" which he used on his many week-long cruises in his M15 on the St. Johns River in Florida. He had written articles about his living aboard, and his M15 sailing adventures on the St. Johns River in a wonderful little magazine "MESSING ABOUT IN BOATS" published by Bob Hicks in Wenham, MA. That's where I first found it mentioned. I wrote Charlie and asked for a more detailed description of his "Tool Box Galley", and built it based on some photos that Charlie Mathews very kindly sent me. Once you have built it, you will find that it is also very useful on any long distance car trips / and in hotel/motel rooms for making a decent breakfast (other than Danish & coffee). We have also used it several times here in Connecticut after loosing electric power for a week at time, in various storms. Then it become a nice Emergency Galley; instantly available. On the M15 I used a restaurant style single burner propane stove that I bought for about $29 (try a restaurant supply house). It is almost square, and stows very nicely under the cockpit sole in an M15. It uses piezoelectric ignition, and turning off the flame also disconnects the fuel container so that it can't leak propane into the boat. Restaurants use such stoves for making crepes Suzette at the table / or for creating a spinach salad at the table We used it on board LEPPO on every cruise / at Rest Stops along the Interstates / and at Motels and Hotels. Remember to take along a table cloth to cover rough picnic tables. As you dine in style, you will be the envy of all the other visitors. The tool box was 19" long , _*with a lift out tray, that you discard*_. Look for the el-cheapo ones at HOME DEPOT or LOWES. You don't want boxes with attached drawers that expand as you open the box; or with containers for screws in the top lid. Your objective is to be able to use the whole volume in the lid for knives and other bits and pieces. If you add two small wooden cleats to the bottom of the plywood filler piece covering the Portapoti, to match the spacing of the cockpit seats at the aft end of the cockpit, it becomes a wonderful galley / work area on an M15. The cleats will keep the plywood work area in place and prevent it from sliding around (Murphy will always see to it that when you are cooking, your wine glasses are filled, and your steak is in the frying pan, some idiot in a powerboat will swing by and create a wake that will send things sliding) The cleats become a "Defeat-Murphy" device so that the galley board, at least stays in place, while you try and hold on to everything else. T'ain't hard to build. Use your imagination, and then play a three-dimensional game with the contents of the Tool Box till you get everything to fit properly - and remember to photograph it, when it is full, so that you can repeat it the easy way next sailing season. Happy sailing, and luxurious dining aboard an M15 Connie & Katrina ex M15 #400 LEPPO Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: P1010004.jpg P1010005.jpg Tool Box Galley Prints 12.10.09.jpg Toolbox Galley.jpg IMG.jpg IMG_0001.jpg IMG_0002_NEW.jpg P1010001.jpg P1010002.jpg P1010003.jpg Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.

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Re: M_Boats: Adjustable Backstay
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 Sep '13

11 Sep '13

Todd, Start here - http://www.harken.com/content.aspx?id=3896 depending upon furling or racing or cruising - Race or furler will GENERALLY require more powerful backstay adj. Good luck - Have fun - try MauriPro for good pricing or your neighborhood dealer as you do want him to stay in business ... Have Fun, Go Sailing. GO M-17t #354 'Tiny Purple Fishes' In a message dated 9/10/2013 5:36:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, todd(a)btbuilders.net writes: Ok - my 23 does not have a adjustable backstay. I am having the rigging replaced and it seems like good idea to add the hardware that would allow me to have an adjuster so I can add rake to the mast. Good idea? Any suggestions on specific ways (recommendations) on the best way to do this? Todd Bradley M-23 #86

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Adjustable Backstay
by Todd Bradley 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Ok - my 23 does not have a adjustable backstay. I am having the rigging replaced and it seems like good idea to add the hardware that would allow me to have an adjuster so I can add rake to the mast. Good idea? Any suggestions on specific ways (recommendations) on the best way to do this? Todd Bradley M-23 #86

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Re: M_Boats: Pacific Trailer for a 23' -might be fals alarm but...
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Cool...good luck. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help out. :-) The guys at Pacific were pretty good to me when I worked with them. Hopefully you will have the same outcome. looking at your axle.... did they change the 23's trailer to a torsion axle too? I think that would be a HUGE improvement and was very impressed with the M17 trailer that had it.

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Educate me about shipping boats
by Charlie Fortner 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

How do you get a smallish boat like an M15 or M17 shipped across the country without doing it yourself? Is it best to have the boat/trailer combo put onto a flatbed? Any war stories? Recommended shipping companies? Thanks for your advice, Charlie -- Charlie Fortner Earth, USA, GA, Atlanta

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23' Monty #86 Progress
by Todd Bradley 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Hi All - Thought I would share a few photos of my progress and take the opportunity to ask a few more questions of the group. I spent the weekend removing all loose items from the cabin so I could have a good clean in there. There were small mildew spots on the cabin top fiberglass headliner and other surfaces. So I mixed bleach & detergent concoction I got out of Don Casey's book and wiped down the whole inside. Smell a lot better in there now! See attached pictures. I have several areas where I have water staining. I am planning on taking off the deck top items and re-bedding them. Seems like a major portion of the leaking is coming from the port lights and top of the cabin corner where the teak corner rail is attached (see attached picture). It looks like this piece of teak is in two pieces and screwed together. Does anyone have any experience removing this teak trim? Any advice? Looks like removal of the port lights is pretty straight forward. Unscrew the interior frame and take them apart, clean and then re-bed? Sean - looks like you have a really cool portside 1/4 berth extension. I bet that gives you some much needed shoulder room when sleeping there? I can see in your photos where you have the teak cushion stop in two pieces and can have the doweled so it can be used with the original size cushion or you can add your added cushion piece extending the 1/4 berth a bit. Looks like about 4" or so? How do you support the whole thing when extended? Do you have some flat supports you extend under the cushions? I also see a cleat attached to the bulkhead. Do you have any pictures of the set up you can share? Do you like and use the extension? I removed the standing rigging and dropped it off at Inland sailing in Rancho Cordova for replacement. It was all original and in pretty bad shape. They said words like "scary" and "dangerous" when I brought it in. Having fun so far.....it only time and money right.....it's about the journey :) Todd Bradley M-23 #86

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Montgomery 12 New Owners
by Jared Prindle 08 Sep '13

08 Sep '13

Hey all, we have recently picked up a Montgomery 12 boat # 3. It's in great condition and we've been sailing it a lot in Oceanside and San Diego. I've replaced the jib sheets, jib halyard and mainsheet. Next I'll replace the main halyard, some of the clam cleats and add a cleat for the downhaul on the boom. Besides all the the boat has been kept quite nice. Any questions with a 12, I may be able to help out. Jared

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Re: M_Boats: Honda 2HP
by W David Scobie 06 Sep '13

06 Sep '13

a couple of years ago i almost purchased one of the 'true' 4HP yamaha motors for my M17 (the 'new' 4HP motors are really a 6HP engine so the weight went from 45ish pounds to 75 pounds). was ready to make the deal, my suzuki in the back of the truck. when i arrived the outboard shop began to change the price of the motor and the trade-in for my suzuki. i walked away ... glad a did as the business practice was poor, sorry that i didn't get the outboard. :: Dave Scobie ________________________________ From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 7:05 AM Dave, I have an old Evenrude 2hp "Mate" from the mid 70's that make the Honda sound quiet!!! My Yamaha 4hp 4 stroke that I use on my M17 has been a jewel. Hope all is well buddy. Bones

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Re: M_Boats: Honda 2HP
by bownez＠juno.com 05 Sep '13

05 Sep '13

Hi Dave, Do you find that the Honda 2hp is a bit noisy? One went past me in the marina last weekend and it sounded loud compared to the water cooled 4 to 6hp counterparts. Perhaps it exhausts above the waterline? Just curious. Bones ____________________________________________________________ 30-second trick for a flat belly This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52293cdb2665c3cda0f53st04vuc

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