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Bill/cockpit canopy
by Flickasf 21 Mar '12

21 Mar '12

Bill, I have made two for my previous Montgomery 15's. I recommend battens and Sunbrella. Give me a call at home, CA, between 8:00 AM and 7:00 PM and I will give you some pointers. If you have a sewing machine, you can make your own. Bert Felton 510 703 7050

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And now for something completely different...
by James Poulakis 20 Mar '12

20 Mar '12

Speed anyone? http://hensevalyd-english.jimdo.com/works-and-creations/souriceau-4-75m-mic… Jim M-17 "Spirit"

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Canopy
by EinkaufR43＠aol.com 20 Mar '12

20 Mar '12

Bill; My Winter project was finally making that sun shade I've wanted for my M-15. I studied the various fabrics, and chose Sunbrella because of durability, and also because I found a deal on an end of roll from a local shop I like. Same thing as previous post: reinforced pockets for tent pole glass battens, tabs for corner tie downs, and lift loop for the middle, ties fore and aft for tautness, and (hopefully) enough flexibility to rig it several ways. I don't plan to use it underway, I made it big enough to cover the hatch, and left room to stand at the stern if desired. It's just wide enough for a fair chance at rain drainage too. We'll see! Oh, battens out and folded, it's about the size of a stadium blanket. Ron Stanton, in warm and sunny Michigan. Really! M-15 #249 In a message dated 3/20/2012 9:55:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, billwick(a)gmail.com writes: We want to get a cockpit canopy made, or make one ourselves. I have pored over various pictures of M-boat gatherings looking at the different setups. I think some stiff battens or PVC conduit will work across each end, and a lift loop in the centre for the halyard. I have a real nice picture of what I recall is Larry Yake's "Corn Dog" at anchor. Question is what fabrics have people used, or like. Choices are Sunbrella (or similar) or Nylon. Sunbrella fabric gives very good shade. Not sure how bulky it would be to stow. Nylon, depending on the weight, may give some glare, but will roll up very compactly. Opinions anyone? Thanks. Bill

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by jerry montgomery 20 Mar '12

20 Mar '12

Hi- Almost three years ago I asked the members of the M list for advice and opinions on ideas that we had regarding a new project that eventually became the Sage 17. We gave great consideration to your opinions and ideas and there is absolutely no doubt that it’s a better boat because of you. The checks are in the mail! We’re starting to get serious about a smaller version of the Sage, and I’d like to ask you for your help again. What we have in mind is a simple, three-stay rig, maybe even a cat rig, and possibly a dagger keel with a bulb in order to make it sit lower on the trailer and be beachable. We don’t want purely water ballast because of the performance limitations, but a combo of water and a lead slug on the end of the daggerboard might be worth considering in order to hold down trailering weight. We might be able to squeeze in a couple of low places to sit, by dropping the aft end of the interior down a few inches and for sleeping, fill in with thicker foam cushions. There would be storage under the settees, but not as much as otherwise. I’d also like to hear your comments on the carbon deck like on the 17. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it is one of the secrets of the S 17’s performance, kind of like free horsepower except that it isn’t really free in that it will make the boat cost at least a thousand dollars more. (After that it's free)! In your mind, is it worth the extra money? In the early 70’s Montgomery Marine, in the Montgomery 17 was the first American builder of production boats to use end-grain balsa in the deck. (C&C Yachts, in Canada, was the first, I believe) Now, pretty much all but the cheepie builders use it. I think there’s a good chance that carbon will do the same thing. jerry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6308 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Boat covers
by Larry E Yake 19 Mar '12

19 Mar '12

Rick, How's your cover from Sailors Taylor working out? Satisfied with it? Which fabric did you use? Larry On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 06:36:13 -0400 Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> writes: > Three years ago I did the full eight-coat Epifanes gloss thing and > bought a > cover from Sailors Taylor. The varnish still looks like new. > > Rick > M17 #633 > Lynne L >

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Old Monty 15 #176 Looking Better All the Time!!
by Jeffrey Johnston 19 Mar '12

19 Mar '12

Hull compounded, polished and swirl remover + 2 coats of Collinite carnuba wax. Trailer painting finished this morning. Two new trailer hubs/tires and spare mounted. Teak stripped. Now, just finish teak with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak finish and shine up the deck and cabin house like the topsides. Then a sailing we shall go....................... Here's a picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/frjeff/6997269629/ *Jeff Johnston+* Molōn labe!

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Re: M_Boats: Old Monty 15 #176 Looking Better All the Time!!
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 19 Mar '12

19 Mar '12

Wow, beautiful nice job In a message dated 3/19/2012 3:57:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, frjeff(a)gmail.com writes: Hull compounded, polished and swirl remover + 2 coats of Collinite carnuba wax. Trailer painting finished this morning. Two new trailer hubs/tires and spare mounted. Teak stripped. Now, just finish teak with Sikkens Cetol Natural Teak finish and shine up the deck and cabin house like the topsides. Then a sailing we shall go....................... Here's a picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/frjeff/6997269629/ *Jeff Johnston+* Molōn labe!

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit drains 84 M17
by Michael Ray Wisely 19 Mar '12

19 Mar '12

Thank you Jerry and Mark D. for your replies to my cockpit drain question. Much appreciated. I'll check to see if they are copper Jerry. And Mark. I won't be sliding in the quarter berth. Ive tried andfound have claustrophobia. Can't imagine doing that under sail and having the leak happen. That must have been frightening. Thanks again for the info. Happy Sailing. Michael Ray. M17 Molly M Sent from my iPhone

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Re: M_Boats: Cockpit Drainage on 1984 M 17
by Michael Ray Wisely 18 Mar '12

18 Mar '12

Hi Jerry, Dave S. and All, I saw the concern about the 81 Cockpit drain pipe. My M 17 (84 model) has the dual underwater drains with hoses connected to dual cockpit drain ports at the port and starboard aft corners of the cockpit. I have had it in the SF bay (Salt) for the past two years and have been worried about them. Just took it out and have concerns. Jerry, or anyone else who might know for sure: We're all of these type made with aluminum pipes or are there some that were made of fiberglass tube or some other piping that I wouldn't have to worry about? I, of course, am too big to squeeze in and don't know anyone that I can trust, who fits, to tell me what the thru hull material is made of. Any advise would be appreciated Jerry, et al. Would rather not try to punch a hole in it to test until I know what the material most likely is, and I have a plan to repair. And, how would you repair it if it was leaking? Not sure what material to put in place if it is Aluminum. Thanks, Michael R. Wisely #384 Molly M.

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Sopranino
by William B Riker 17 Mar '12

17 Mar '12

I mentioned this to a few folks at Havasu, but think it’s worthy of a broader audience. On my way to Havasu, I had a very interesting, though brief, conversation at a rest area on I-10 west of Phoenix. When I came out of the restroom, there was an older couple standing next to my boat obviously waiting to talk to me. After asking about the boat, the gentleman introduced himself as Patrick Ellam, age 91, and explained that he and Colin Mudie were the first to sail a small (19’) boat across the Atlantic, in 1951! The boat was named Sopranino as was book he wrote about the voyage. Sopranino was also a wrinkle boat, clinker-built from 3/8” mahogany. I had heard of the book, but not read it. Of course, I bought a copy on Amazon. He and his wife (I presume) had a Casita travel trailer and were headed to a Casita rendezvous in Quartzite. I could relate more of the the Sopranino story, but it would be from the book and then you won’t need to buy a copy. Bill Riker M15 – #184 Storm Petrel

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