April 2010 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Pop up truck camper recommendations
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Hi Doug, We also traveled with a four wheel pop up for many years while working shows. It was convenient and served us well in both warm and cold weather. sal In a message dated 4/15/2010 7:39:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, ndorf(a)surfbest.net writes: Doug, what a coincidence, I am contemplating the same thing. We just sold our Coleman popup tent trailer because the kids are grown and we don't use it anymore and it occupied space in the garage that soon will be the "boat cave", and we obviously can't tow both the M15 and trailer. Anyway, we will just wait until our Jeep Grand Cherokee V8 with 60K miles conks out, which may be quite a few more years, then we will be going to the truck+camper approach. But I have already started researching. Given the weight of the camper plus the weight of the boat and trailer, especially the tongue weight, my feeling is that the camper shell needs to be light for a margin of towing safety. I also favor a "pop-up" type shell that, while on the road, would only extend maybe a foot, less is better, above the cab for less wind drag going forward and less susceptibility to crosswinds. When the truck is stationary, the shell is raised for standing room, either with a canvas tent sealing the hard roof from the sides or a hard-sided design. I have heard very good things about Alaskan campers, but I believe that they are heavy. More realistically, I think a lighter weight design is called for, so I have been looking at designs like this: http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/ There are numerous other brands similar to the ones you see in the above link, with fewer or more amenities. Anyway, hope that helps. Neil _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Sage Marine
by Karsten Brooks 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

Check out the new picture on the website: www.sagemarine.com Very creative. Karsten m15 #236

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Fixed keel M17 advertised for sale
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

C,mon! Who's gonna grab this? There's another Fixed Keel M17 for sale on msog.org. That's a rare find! I know Dorothy and Eldor love theirs! I already asked and Jo said No! :-) On another note...we are heading over to Chula Vista Marina (Sand Diego) this weekend to sail with Capt Howie and his misfit group of Socal Potters and Friends. Multiple Montgomerys will be joining them. If you are in the area stop by and say Hi! Sean M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com)

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Re: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17
by bownez＠juno.com 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

HI Robbin, Look back in the newsletter archives, there is an article I wrote and pictures of the kick-up rudder I made for my M17. A great addition I added a few years back is a releasing cleat. I got the idea from Idasailor. A lanyard holds the lower section of the rudder in position until it strikes ground or an object in the water. At which point the cleat releases and allows the lower section to swing aft. I tested it several times in the North Channel! Later, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4bca0a773341b2d1e93st03vuc

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Re: M_Boats: kick up rudder for M dink and M-17
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

I absolutely hated the standard kickup rudder/tiller arrangement on my M15, whereby the tiller is connected to not only the cheek blocks, but a piston which is connected to the rudder blade. So when you lift the tiller enough, that triggers the kickup and kickdown of the blade. Problem is, if you're like me, you sometimes want to lift up the tiller just to make a little room to change sides depending upon crew placement, or you might want to stand up to make a rigging adjustment with tiller in hand. Yes, yes, a tiller extension makes sense and I added one, but anyway what I did was to have John Owens at JO Woodworks re-engineer the whole thing in the "old school" fashion with a separate downhaul and uphaul, a cleat mounted on top of the tiller to keep the rudder up when launching or at anchor and a duckworks "breakaway" cleat mounted vertically on the cheek block to keep the blade down while sailing. The downhaul cleat has a tension adjustment for the amount of pressure it will take before breaking away to allow the rudder to float up if you run aground or hit an obstruction. For me, much, much better arrangement. I'm not knocking the Idasailor approach --it actually looks like a decent solution--but I just didn't have the means to go that direction. Can't post photos on this forum but if anyone wants more information or a photo, email me privately and I'll send you a pic. As long as your rudder is in good shape you could do this yourself, but I had John do it because the blade itself needed serious repair and I wanted a 2nd one built. John does EXCELLENT work, and no I don't own stock in his company :-) Neil

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Keeping my old-style Ida Sail rudder from unshipping
by DavidCPatterson Patteson 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

I sail in shallow waters often, to extend my sailing space on the little local reservoir, and I have had the problem of touching bottom and having my rudder un-ship. (My rudder is lower than my centerboard.) My solution was to drill a hole in my middle pintle, put a cotter ring in it, and let the grounding force just stretch the rudder's lifting line. Before, with only the top pintle pinned, the rudder would jump out of the lower two gudgeons, then dangle ineffectively in the top gudgeon. A bit disconcerting! I still have to re-tighten the lifting line after touching bottom, but at least I'm not wrestling with trying to reset the pintles in the gudgeons, while sailing at the same time. It only took moments to drill the hole and insert a ring, though the stainless is very hard. David, Cloud Girl, M17 #393

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kick up rudder for M dink and M-17
by al williams 19 Apr '10

19 Apr '10

Hello Robbin, I thought about modifying my M17 rudder but decided to adapt a kick up rudder from another boat. If interested I can provide additional details and pics. regards, al williams _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28…

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Anchor mount...
by LOU 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

I checked out that Manson Supreme anchor and it looks like a great anchor. I believe that it would be great mounted off the bow of the boat with a self launching braquet and the lines run back to the cockpit for quick set without leaving the cockpit.

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Recommended Ballast on M15
by Sandra Anton 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Hello I am the owner of 2006 M15. I have a 43 lb Yamaha 4 stroke mounted on port stern. The boat lists from the outboards weight. I would like to add ballast to trim the boat. Its a very tight space under the starboard bench. The boat was built with extra ballast glassed into the bow. What have others used or what might you recommend I use to correct this situation. Sandra Anton Barnegat Bay NJ

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Re: M_Boats: danforth anchor mount
by Larry E Yake 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

The Manson Supreme is on sale at Defender.com right now. Great deals. I just ordered one last week. They are rated as Ultra High Holding Power. Larry

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