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Re: M_Boats: Opening ports
by bownez＠juno.com 27 Mar '10

27 Mar '10

Sal, I installed a pair of SS Bomar's in my M23 two years ago. I have been very pleased with them. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Small Business Tools Compete with the big boys. Click here to find products to benefit your business. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=t2BqfALYmPy34vqpweWr3QAAJ1ApM…

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Re: M_Boats: interior paint?
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 26 Mar '10

26 Mar '10

John I have the same interior in my '85 M15. Thought about painting it when I got the boat last summer but instead decided to just scrub it clean with Lysol and warm water. Brightened it up enough for me. No regrets...after all, it's just a place to stow your stuff and sleep in at night, and the paint color doesn't matter in the dark ;-) I did however replace the cabin cushions and that also brightened up the cabin especially since I had cockpit cushions made from the same material to match. Other enhancements I've seen that caught my attention are: mesh storage bags A teak wood dish and wine goblet rack,.. I think Bill Kaiser had that on "Desert Dawn" and also I saw a picture of a similar one on Frank Durant's "Finally" (see MSOG photo site). Frank also has a stern lazarette/locker I am liking and may have John Owens build one for me. -Neil

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Rich and "Really"
by Richard Cottrell 25 Mar '10

25 Mar '10

Haven't posted in past year because I've run out of things to say! Read all your posts and enjoy being a passive participant. Started swimming with Menlo Masters last year. Just purchased a wetsuit. Plan to swim off Really's swim ladder this spring on Lake Don Pedro. Lake level way up. Should be a great sailing season. Trinity Lake water level is still too low to travel 300 miles. Rich Cottrell "Really" M15 #288 Menlo Park, Ca

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Has anyone seen Chuck McCoy?
by Richard Cottrell 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Still waiting for delivery of my brand new M15. Rich Cottrell

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Experimenting with Sails
by George Johnson 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

I was fortunate enough to sail on Lake Somerville here in Texas this last week and experimented with different sails. I'd be grateful for any input on similar or different experiences any of you may have had. There were strong winds coming from the south to meet an approaching front. Winds were 15-20mph with much stronger gusts. I took the opportunity to see how the boat handled and pointed with just the main, the main with one reef, the jib alone and a storm jib alone. Waves were minimal since it isn't a big lake. Centerboard down the whole time. The mainsail alone (the original sail that came with the boat I assume, Eliot Pattison): too much for the winds and gusts, kept getting heeled waaaay over. The mainsail with one reef. much more comfortable ride, light to moderate weather helm. The boat would point well but VERY slow speed close-hauled, 2.3kts. 4.5 - 5.2kts on a reach according to my GPS (set on knots). The jib alone ( a 110% I believe), hanked on, not roller furled: Excellent upwind performance! Pointed high on a close reach (45 degrees from true, both tacks) and speedy. 4.0 kts upwind, occasionally 5kts with a lifter ( I was very surprised at this). Close to 5 kts cruise on a beam reach with 5.6kts every minute or two with some of the gusts, fastest according to the GPS was 5.9). Light weather helm to neutral. Very comfortable ride! The storm jib alone (C & C sailmakers, Corpus Christi, TX): Poor performance upwind. Wouldn't point. 3.5 - 4.7 kts on a reach. The main with one reef and the storm jib: Fair upwind performance, but the regular jib alone was superior. I don't have a lot of experience with tuning the rig so may not be giving the main all the advantage it can have, or it may be blown out. Not sure how to tell. I was very surprised and very happy sailing with just the jib. Anyone else have similar findings??? George Johnson M-17 Sancha #600 San Antonio, TX

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Re: M_Boats: new to group
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

Hi Tim, Welcome to the Montgomery board. Great group, lotsa knowledge shared. Good luck on your quest. We have an M15, took a while to find. Drove from Denver to Arkansas to get it. Very pleased. sal M15 - "Justus" - 1986 - #361 M23 - #2 - being built In a message dated 3/23/2010 9:08:30 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, sailtim(a)yahoo.com writes: Heoo, my name is Tim Erwin, I just joined. I live down at the Texas coast in Rockport. I recently sold my beautiful classic Alberg 30 in Dec. She became too much for me to take good care of. I'm 62 and have MS. I've done a geat deal of research and I have decided to buy a Montomery 17. We have alot of wind and water down here and for their size, they seem to be the best. I single hand most of the time. I have noticed that they are hard to find so I will just keep checking the website. I'm looking forward to hearing what the actual owners are conversing about. Thanks, Tim _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Sailing/kiting at anchor
by DavidCPatterson Patteson 24 Mar '10

24 Mar '10

One way I have found to decrease kiting at anchor is to raise both my centerboard and my old-style ida-sail rudder. The underbody doesn't grab the water as well then, the boat stays more bow to wind, and sometimes as though hove to (if the wind is strong enough.) I often put a snatch block on the anchor rode, attached at the bow shackle, low down at the water line, which also makes pitching from waves less because of the angle of the rode being lower down. An 8 or 10 pound kellet can be put on the anchor line to decrease the rode angle even more. The 8 x 10 tarp I use as a boom tent, at times, seems to work a bit like a riding sail, when I have the cockpit covered with it. Another solution I use for kiting is a two anchor set, with the rodes on a swivel let down below keel level at the bow. That way my boat seems to go nowhere but head to wind, no matter if the wind changes through 360 degrees, of course. It is easy to put the rodes on bowline-on-a-bight knots on a substantial swivel, still secured to the boat at their bitter ends. The extra part of the rodes drape port and starboard along the bow. The swivel is secured on a mooring line (or two). The swivel makes for no tangles. Anchor recovery is only a bit slower. Sometimes this two anchor set is called a Bahamian moor, but that is actually referring to an anchor bow and stern to handle tidal flows, I believe. Look at Rousmaniere or Pardey or other sources for two anchor mooring and/or Bahamian mooring. Works well. Increases the sense of security too. The season can't come too soon, can it? David, Cloud Girl, M17 #393

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Re: M_Boats: new to group
by ndorf＠surfbest.net 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Thanks Randy. btw where is your "home port"?

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Re: M_Boats: Experimenting with Sails
by eisenee＠aol.com 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Dave Your video brought back sweet memories!! That crossing alone was more then enough to make the trip from Texas worthwhile. Steady 7.5kts and 9kts (gps) for a while!!! We were all flying. Eldor M17 Motu iti

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Re: M_Boats: new to group
by eisenee＠aol.com 23 Mar '10

23 Mar '10

Welcome to the group, Tim. This may be your lucky day if you can handle a fixed keel, and right in your neighborhood too. We have probably the only fixed cruising keel M17 built, Jerry and clarify that. She has about 36 in. draft and is fairly easy to launch with extention tongue trailer. Lets try to get all of the Tx. M17's together, that would be fun but no forginers would believe the stories that come out of it. Eldor M17 Motu iti

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