October 2007 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Montgomery Sailboats are in high demand
by Bob Eeg 14 Jul '13

14 Jul '13

And are built with top-notch quality. There is nothing in the market place faster, better built and as good looking as a Montgomery Sailboat. I don't run a factory; I run a very small boatshop. I built to order on a boat by boat basis. I do a lot of custom work when asked. Bronze ports, Stainless ports, extra ballast, Custom electrical systems, Idasailor rudders, anchoring packages..etc. This work is labor intensive. Quality takes time. I have 3 employees. These people are highly experienced in Laminating, construction, assembly and finish. Woodworking and other skills result in a absolutely beautiful sailing vessel. I use the best sails the best rigging, the best custom stainless fasteners..and yes....(laughing) the best cushions. This last 15 months have been EXTREMELY busy; hiring new help was impossible because all the good people are gone. We had a tremendous BACKLOG and we caught a break only when Pacific Seacraft employees (let go) began filtering into our shop looking for work. We did add some additional crew in the Laminating Shop and because of that we are caught up. Pacific Seacrafts Bankruptcy was good for us. Bad for the dozens of good people who are out of work. The FIRST question of anyone buying a new boat should be 'How is the construction quality'? First and foremost that is the most important issue. I can say that everyone has experienced and will continue to experience a BACKLOG of orders; especially if the boat is as popular as a Montgomery Sailboat. When we had an 8 month backlog and I actually turned down 2 M_17 orders so we could catch our breath. It is impossible to work any harder or any faster. Now that were caught up we can get back to our normal 50-70 days (depending on model and options). Also custom work really adds to the production time. One beautiful M_17 we did we cut the V berth out of and installed an oval bulkhead, custom shelves and inline potti area; with 4 bronze ports she is an amazing boat, but custom work takes time. Expect delays if you go radical on the interior. (I think BONES has a photo of that one...) We are really one of the only builders that entertain changes and options to satisfy the customer. This new Passagemaker M_17 were building (and installing a windvane on tomorrow) is going to be amazing. Other actual boat factories that produce boats for DEALERS (that Tod mentioned) like Precision and Compac are built on Factory Production lines for a large Dealership Network. Dealers who have these boats in stock can supply them right away. But ask for major changes on a future production boat and the wait will be many months. International Marine builds boats faster with more employees but those boats are piss poor sailers (upwind) and many arrive with a list of problems that are pathetic. That's not me. So try not to focus on the TIME factor. We can only go so fast. Hiring additional help is not an option because by the time you train someone the season gets slow and you have to lay them off. I can't do that. I have people that have been with me for 20 years; I keep us small and efficient on purpose. So be surprised if we hit the delivery time; which we do quite often. Be a little disappointed when we miss it; but get over it when you see your boat. Dozens of you know me; you've arrived to see me rig your boat, pack you up and shake your hand. (Heck...Gary Hyde even brought me a bottle of wine..!..Thanks Gary.!) One man bought a new M_15 from us and a new M_17 a year later.! The C word...Cushions. I inspect everyboat before it leaves for home. Scott's boat was leaving for the Bay Area early Friday morning; I was at the boatshop at 10:30 PM Thursday night, sleeping at the picnic table just inside the door, waiting for the cushion guy to arrive with the (late) promised cushions. He drove up, woke me up and I watched as he stacked them on the deck. We left. My man arrived at 3AM and hooked up the boat and slid the cushions inside the boat. I should have loaded them myself then I would have noticed they looked good but didn't have the required 'Squeeze' factor. Let's move on, shall we....? Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227 Boat Builder

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new member
by Tom Jenkins 21 Dec '07

21 Dec '07

Hello members: I bought M17 hull number 626 (2004) in late winter, and still need more time to bring it back to "new" before taking it out. I think there is a picture of the finished boat on Bob Eeg's website (taken at the factory in '04, with tanbark sails). Now it has a roller-furling jib, and I bought an Idasailor kickup rudder to try it out. The complete electrical system might have been unnecessary for my purposes, but it is pretty slick. I live in June Lake, which is high up in the eastern Sierra Nevada of California, and I want to sail in the local lakes to start, but I have designs on some Colorado River lakes (Powell, Mead, Havasu), Puget Sound, the Texas and Florida gulf coasts, and who knows what other great American waters. I would also like to return to Bahia Magdelena and other localities in Baja California and along the Mexican mainland. I have had a Nor'Sea 27 forever, but I wanted something more agile to hit small lakes than the 27, but more capable than my venerable gaff-rigged WW Potter. I certainly look forward to interacting with the group. Tom Jenkins Scintilla #626

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Re: M_Boats: name change
by chbenneck＠juno.com 01 Nov '07

01 Nov '07

Hi Bobby, ..... or "Buttercup"? Connie

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temporarily unsubscribe
by Martin.Zebzda＠kp.org 31 Oct '07

31 Oct '07

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Blowholes and backflow
by david_hill＠idg.com 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

I found pretty simple and satisfactory solutions to both these problems. I take a small strip of rag about an inch wide and four inches long, wrap it a couple of times around the centerboard rope and push it tight against the blowhole. I get a bit of hissing but no water. Of course by the end of the season the piece of rag could be mistaken for a biology experiment, but rags are cheap. For the stern drains I simply bought a couple of 85-cent corks at the hardware store and stick them in before I leave the mooring. In the event I take on serious water (has happened a couple of times) I can just kick them out with my toe and things drain. David Hill M17 619 Grouper ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:40:39 -0800 From: " Richard Everett " <rick(a)skyko.com> Subject: M_Boats: M17 leak To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Message-ID: <20071029154039.24878.qmail(a)coolhost77.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We came up with a pretty simple plug for the "blowhole" effect in the M17 by slicing a piece of 2 inch long rubber tubing (something like the black rubber automotive fuel line tubing) which had an ID that was a tight fit around the line used to draw up the keel and had an OD that was a snug fit into the "blowhole". Actually, I trimmed a section of a piece of tubing that was too large to fit in the hole down a bit so that it would not get permanently stuck down in the hole. So all in all, it makes for a nice gasket to keep the water out of the cockpit. Having said all that, we still get water in the cockpit because even in a mild chop water seems to flow in through the stern cockpit drain holes. They have backflow prevention devices inline, but for some reason a trickle will still flow through and after awhile there is around a half inch of water sloshing around in the aft section of the cockpit. It does get above this amount because then it starts draining back out. I was considering installing some sort of ball valve shutoff for the two drain lines, but it would be bad to forget to open them up and then get a serious amount of water suddenly in the cockpit. :-( Maybe the solution is to always wear heavy rubber boots...

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Video of sailing Dauntless in 30+
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Well Rick what can I say...call it what you will. If it makes you feel better to call it 15-20 then it was 15-20. It was the hardest 15-20 the three of us have ever seen. hahaha And between Gary, Scott, and myself I think there's about 60-70 years of combined sailing experience. Hey Gary...what do you think???? 15-20? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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mid-atlantic autumn sail?
by Donglai Gong 30 Oct '07

30 Oct '07

Anyone interested in getting together for a mid-atlantic autumn sail? Meeting up with other M-boat owners would be awesome. I'm located in Jersey. Cheers, Donglai M15 #612 Shaolin

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Re: M_Boats: name change
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

I am sorry, but 'Cheezy" is already associated with my boat. It is a recurring adjective used to describe its snappy 'Yacht' like finishes. Cheetos, Cheezit, and the venerable "Cheese Doodle", are still available I believe. Gotta Love the "Corn Dog" and "Liquid Wench" My faves this week. LOL (hard) GO ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

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name change
by Bobbie Mayer 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

>Zephr sounds like a great name, I like it. We are still trying to >come up with a name for our Yellow Monty 17. I like the name French >Fries but the wife is objecting. Our other boat is named Breezy so >perhaps we may have a Breezy II. Not sure yet. Hmm.. Breezy, yellow... how about Cheezy?

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M17 leak
by Richard Everett 29 Oct '07

29 Oct '07

We came up with a pretty simple plug for the "blowhole" effect in the M17 by slicing a piece of 2 inch long rubber tubing (something like the black rubber automotive fuel line tubing) which had an ID that was a tight fit around the line used to draw up the keel and had an OD that was a snug fit into the "blowhole". Actually, I trimmed a section of a piece of tubing that was too large to fit in the hole down a bit so that it would not get permanently stuck down in the hole. So all in all, it makes for a nice gasket to keep the water out of the cockpit. Having said all that, we still get water in the cockpit because even in a mild chop water seems to flow in through the stern cockpit drain holes. They have backflow prevention devices inline, but for some reason a trickle will still flow through and after awhile there is around a half inch of water sloshing around in the aft section of the cockpit. It does get above this amount because then it starts draining back out. I was considering installing some sort of ball valve shutoff for the two drain lines, but it would be bad to forget to open them up and then get a serious amount of water suddenly in the cockpit. :-( Maybe the solution is to always wear heavy rubber boots...

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