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Cannel Island trip
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

To those that indicated they might be interested in going along, Jason and I are tentatively setting the date of May 20 or 21 for our sail to Anacapa from Channel Islands Harbor. We are planning on driving to Ventura, Ca on Friday the 19th. We're hoping that we will have good weather to sail out to Anacapa Island on Saturday. If not, we'll play around in the harbour and try again Sunday. We have to be back on the road by Sunday evening so we can both be back to work on Monday. Both of us would enjoy meeting and sailing with any other Monty folk that are out that way. As for the trip...It's every man/woman for themselves! We are both coastal sailing neophytes so if you plan on coming along expect us to drive you crazy with questions and don't expect any answers or good advice from us! If it looks marginal weather wise expect me to be too timid.....and Jason to be too bold! Between the two of us we about average out. hahaha We are both finalizing our time off from work, but it looks like its a go. Hope to see you there. Sean

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Folding Dinkiy
by David W. Wood 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

> I tow a Bolger "Nymph". It tracks well, has good capacity and is > generally > a serviceable dink, but there is a noticeable bow wave under tow. > On the > Maine Cruise, last year, I became convinced that Doug Kelch's > Bolger "Light > Dory" created less drag than my dink and it's like three times the > size. One of my requirements is that it has to be "car-topable" on my wife's Subaru Forester. I think if I put the light Dory on there I'd probably become airborne. Or at least pushed into the opposing lane in a crosswind. > I'm going to use the Nymph this year, but I'm thinking of building > Iain > Oughtreds "Auk" next winter. > > http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/details.asp?Name=Auk > > I like the fact that it's hull resembles that of a Montgomery and > my current > boatbuilding obsession is glue lapstrake. Yeah, the lapstrake look is what I like most about the Chesapeake Pram. Plus, all the parts are precut and included in the kit. Makes it possible for even someone with ten thumbs like me to build one. Possible. I didn't say easy. But all the dinghy suggestions look good. And I guess a little drag is a fair price to pay for not having to wrestle with an inflatable in my cockpit. Now to find the time to build one. David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163

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Folding Dinkiy
by Rick Langer 09 Apr '06

09 Apr '06

David, I agree trying to assemble a folding boat in the M15 cockpit would be a challenge. I once thought about carrying a folding kayak on my boat, but nixed the idea because assembly would be next to impossible. Not to mention the difficulty of getting in and out of it from the side of an M15. I tow a Bolger "Nymph". It tracks well, has good capacity and is generally a serviceable dink, but there is a noticeable bow wave under tow. On the Maine Cruise, last year, I became convinced that Doug Kelch's Bolger "Light Dory" created less drag than my dink and it's like three times the size. I'm going to use the Nymph this year, but I'm thinking of building Iain Oughtreds "Auk" next winter. http://www.classicmarine.co.uk/details.asp?Name=Auk I like the fact that it's hull resembles that of a Montgomery and my current boatbuilding obsession is glue lapstrake. Sporadic Fanatic, Rick Langer M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 12:45:23 -0700 > From: "David W. Wood" <dwood(a)dwoodworks.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Folding Dinky > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <5C6DA0C0-AACE-411C-A437-A00917F19C48(a)dwoodworks.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > >> Of course my boat is so fast that I find it necessary to tow a dink. > > Good one, Rick. But I can see the advantage of towing a dinghy over > wrestling with a cumbersome inflatable. Can you guess what sort of > speed penalty you pay with the boat you tow? I really like the looks > of this dinghy: > > http://www.clcboats.com/boats/eastportpram.php > > but wonder just how much drag it would cause dangling off of my transom. > > David > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com > 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery T-shirts
by Jslubliner＠aol.com 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

OK Gang, I want to clarify a few things myself. I would like to have some of these great new Montgomery Shirts. I personally always make crew shirts with the name of my boat, my club affiliation and Monty 17 for each of the crew members when I race. It's' called pride of ownership and I love my little wrinkled boat. I am only interested right now in some additional shirts if they mention the MSOG and give our group site. If they contain advertising for Bob, Jerry or Larry the Cable Guy as well, I welcome it, but, I really don't care. My issue is not about the current manufacturer, the owner of the rights to the name, or anybody else. I love my brand and have interest in promoting the MSOG as an entity that brings owners together, answers mutual questions and helps us plan sailing together and swapping info. If that fits everybody else's sensibilities, count me in. If this is not the result of this thread, I believe you will sell plenty of these items in whatever format you decide. Have fun and let's try to keep some perspective. John in Tucson

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Folding Dinky
by David W. Wood 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

> Of course my boat is so fast that I find it necessary to tow a dink. Good one, Rick. But I can see the advantage of towing a dinghy over wrestling with a cumbersome inflatable. Can you guess what sort of speed penalty you pay with the boat you tow? I really like the looks of this dinghy: http://www.clcboats.com/boats/eastportpram.php but wonder just how much drag it would cause dangling off of my transom. David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163

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Montgomery T-shirts
by David W. Wood 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

Yeah, I agree with Howard here. If this were something I was being forced to do, like those car dealers that put their nameplate on my trunk lid without my permission, that would be one thing. But I want one of these t-shirts that Sean's putting together to show my appreciation of the boats and the owner's group. If Bob Eeg or Jerry Montgomery or anyone else gets some gain from that, well, that's just fine with me. And like Howard said, having a manufacturer that is still in business is to every owner's benefit. But as far as I'm concerned, it's an MSOG t-shirt. And frankly, I like being associated with this fine group of people. David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= David W. Wood -=- dwood(a)dwoodworks.com 1981 M15 -=- Hull #163 > I don't mind plugging for Bob or Jerry. Bob for the factory and > Jerry for > his rigging business or anything else he is up to. I like the fact > that both > are still in business and are hanging around to help support these > boats. A > boat design still going strong after 25 years is a remarkable thing. > > Of course I haven't bought anything in the way of mugs, t-shirts, > etc. Bob > did give away some t-shirts to a few of us at the Hess Tribute in > 2004. > Believe me, I wear that proudly. > > Howard

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery T-shirts
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

In a message dated 4/7/2006 2:05:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, Jslubliner(a)aol.com writes: My interest is in fostering additional information among interested parties who share a common hobby or product. If Mr. Eeg wants to give away advertising in the form of tee shirts, hats, etc., for his products, I'd love to have it, but am not interested in underwriting this advertising... Just a thought. John in Tucson Coyote - M17FD #69 I agree with John's view as stated above, no need to advertise for a manufacturer that is not assisting in underwriting the expense. Gary in Phoenix (rather be in Tucson!) M-17STBTR #316A "We must not promise what we ought not, lest we be called on to perform what we cannot." -- Abraham Lincoln

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Folding Dinky
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

Rick, That's an awesome little dink. Thanks for the Link! I wish it was just a little larger. I guess my 6'4'' 250lbs = about 1.75 adults!!! I'd have to build 2 so I could get 'Jo ashore also. hahaha

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Folding Dinky
by Rick Langer 08 Apr '06

08 Apr '06

I thought some of you folks would be interested in this folding dink. Just the right size for our boats http://www.woodenwidget.com/index.html Be sure to check out the video. Of course my boat is so fast that I find it necessary to tow a dink. Rick Langer M15 #337 Bluebird

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Montgomery T-shirts
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 06 Apr '06

06 Apr '06

Hey everyone! OK, well we took a lot of input and suggestions for T-shirts, sweatshirts and the like and we have the almost finalized design. But...I need your help on one further thing. We felt it appropriate to have a pocket emblem and to indicate an assosciation with the MSOG. So we placed the Monty "M" on the pocket with the words "sailboat owner's group" below it. All the trademarks of Montgomery Boats displayed on the shirt and the artwork have been approved by Bob Eeg of Montgomery, however, even though it's not a trademark, I'd like to make sure that no-one here objects to having the pocket emblem as described above. Keith, that especially means you since this is your site. Please check out the artwork at www.havasumontgomerys.funtigo.com. Look for the bouncing "new" next to the T-shirt and Sweatshirt page and click. Sorry for the crummy quality of the screenshot but I had to convert a pdf file to a jpeg and it didn't convert too great. Good enough to get the idea though. Just FYI, The artwork will be on an Ash grey T-shirt. The artwork on the back is finalized and I'd like to thank David Wood for all his hard work. It's gonna look great. Please send me any comments you may have re: the MSOG logo. If there is any objection to having the words "sailboat owners group" we will refrain from using it and just use the "M", no big deal. We want everyone to be happy! :-) Emails to nebwest2(a)aol.com please so as not to tie up the message board. Thanks, Sean

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