April 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

North Channel Cruise
by htmills＠bright.net 02 Nov '06

02 Nov '06

I'm planning on a two week North Channel Cruise in mid June. I'll probably drive from Ohio to Tobermory, take the Chi-Cheemaun ferry over to South Baymouth (Manitoulin Island), and then drive to Little Current (Manitoulin Island) on Saturday June 5th. I might end up taking the ferry on the morning of the 6th depending on how late I hit the road. At the present time I'm thinking of making a general counter clockwise spin around the North Channel, launching at Spider Bay Marina in Little Current and going north and then west to the Bustard Islands and west and then crossing south to the west end of Manitoulin and returning east again. Of course, all plans are subject to the weather and whims of the person at the helm! Mid June will probably be a bit ahead of the crowd and still kinda nippy. There is some info on the area at: http://www.continuouswave.com/north-channel/ and here: http://www.continuouswave.com/sail-logs/ If anyone else is planning on a trip up there, perhaps we can meet up! Tod

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M-12 class association?
by htmills＠bright.net 11 Nov '05

11 Nov '05

I was browsing through a book I had bought thirty years ago and it lists some one-design class association secretaries. At that time, the M12 class association secretary was one Nancy Kilpatrick of Newport Beach, CA. Never knew such a thing existed. Tod

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Re: M_Boats: Re:OB Problem . .
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 23 Jul '05

23 Jul '05

A couple of points. A motor need fuel, air, spark, and timing to run. A weak ignition will spark a plug in open air but not under compresion (higher resistance across the air gap). The best way to check is the starting fluid test. I've also run an outboard on propane from a blow torch by having somene hold the unlit torch next to the carb air inlet while I cranked the OB. This verified a fuel delivery problem. Good Luck Don

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Re: M_Boats: Gel Coat Matching
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

In a message dated 4/16/2005 1:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, bobo4u(a)qwest.net writes: I'm a little concerned that the gelcoat may not stick to the epoxy-based repair. Hi Bob Not that I'm an expert! However, Don Casey's book "Hull & Deck Repair" says dont use an epoxy if the finish is going to be gelcoat. Instead use a polyester resin as gelcoat will not bond well with Epoxy. My plan is to fillet the holes I'm making using Epoxy thickened with colloidal Silica and then seal the ladder & mount in a bed of polysulfide. For the holes left from the previous mount, I'll fill them with Fiberglass and polyester resin and cap them off with gelcoat. Don Casey says it's best to let a woman approve the gelcoat color match. Or if that's not possible, develop a "good enough" attitude. I got West System Epoxy "how to" manual today. It covers much of what Don Casey says as well as goes into more on the Epoxy, while Don's book deals with much more, such as sealants and polyester resins. Both books age worth buying. Bill M-17 "Tipperary"

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Re: M_Boats: more new stuff on the photo site...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

In a message dated 1/22/2005 12:38:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, bobo4u(a)qwest.net writes: Sorry to respond to list about this, but I don't know who codes the site. Hi Bob, Funtigo does it all. It's quite easy to use their site as they made it that way. If I had to do as you suggest... it wouldn't get done as I don't posses those skills. Now about funtigo... There is a possibility they can change something to assist those with other than an MS browser. However, I'm not the person to suggest whatever is needed as again, I dont posses those skills. Maybe you could write to Funtigo on the MSOG behalf, explain what their situation is and get a technical answer. That, after translation, we could all understand. As for me, I never heard of Foxfire or Safari before. I've always used Internet Explorer and don't know any better. You would be doing the group a favor if you can get an answer. Go to their main site at www.funtigo.com and at the lower left is a "contact us" link. If you want to get an idea of how they make it for their clients. You can sign up for a free trial funtigo membership. Thanks for any help, Bill

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New optional folding rudder option for Montgomery 17's
by Bob 09 May '05

09 May '05

We are installing an Idasailor folding rudder (3 pintle) on a new 2005 Montgomery 17 being built for a customer in Maryland. Kind of excited to see how it looks and how it sails. It is the same depth as the standard rudder and all else being equal it should perform as well. If all goes well we will offer it as an option on our new M_17s. After I get her installed I would be glad to send photos to anyone interested. Resin is now at $605 a drum....!!!!!.....OUCH! Look for a price increase. Also bought another 3200#'s of lead.....cranking away at boats... Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227

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Florida Keys Plus
by Saltm17＠aol.com 30 Apr '05

30 Apr '05

The Florida Keys trip is on. This week Clarence and I will travel to Long Key where we will meet up with Maria and launch at Seabird Marina. The plan is to sail west from there, weather permitting, past Marathon to Newfound Harbor and Looe Key, and returning to Long Key. Then Clarence and I will trailer our boats to Pennsacola to be part of the B.E.E.R. (Backwater Emergency Environmental Rendezvous) cruise. They have over 70 trailersailors signed up! Then I plan to trailer Miss T to the Chesapeake for the Chesapeake Bay Cruise, with: Al Williams – M17 Clarence Andrew – M17 Doug Kelch – M15 Bill Riker – M15 Steve Ricker – M15 Stan Winarski (part of the cruise) – M15 The next stop is Barnegate Bay (near Atlantic City NJ) where I'll take some family and friends day sailing. Should be a fun trip. John

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Re: M_Boats: roller furling
by Larry E Yake 30 Apr '05

30 Apr '05

Craig, I'm no expert on sails, but I believe the rule of thumb is that you can furl a properly built sail down 30% and still have efficient sail shape. I've had better luck than that, probably going down 50% and still having what I consider satisfactory performance. Racers in the group might not agree. My experience is strictly with my own boat and I find the convenience well worth any performance I might be giving up in stronger winds. I've had good success going to wind in some rough conditions when others had to motor to make any progress, so it must be working fairly well. Larry On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:36:44 -0400 "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell(a)ia4u.net> writes: > > Would 155% be too hard to reef to a very small size, Larry (or > anyone)? I need a new > genny ... I had my 110% modified to fit my CDI (Gilbert I have no > idea whether I have > FF1 or FF2, and don't know whether I have the webbing or grommet??? > I bought it > used, salvaged from a totaled Hunter, and had it set up by a local > sailmaker ...), so > it's even smaller than 110% now ... I have a sadly underpowered 17' > with a tiny genoa > and blown-out McKibbon main ... But I like the fact that I can size > the current > foresail to a postage-stamp on dicey days ... Would I still be able > to do so if I had > a 155%? Thanks, Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Larry E Yake > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:31 AM > Subject: roller furling > > I have a 150 genoa with luff tape to retain sail shape when > partially > furled. I've used it down to 90% and smaller and it still works > well. You > need to adjust your sheet blocks forward as you furl, of course. > I'm in > eastern Washington. Sail mostly in north Idaho with the occasional > trip > to the west side... San Juans, etc. Lots of light wind areas. The > 150 > really brings the boat to life. > Larry > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Re: M_Boats: roller furling
by Larry E Yake 30 Apr '05

30 Apr '05

I have a 150 genoa with luff tape to retain sail shape when partially furled. I've used it down to 90% and smaller and it still works well. You need to adjust your sheet blocks forward as you furl, of course. I'm in eastern Washington. Sail mostly in north Idaho with the occasional trip to the west side... San Juans, etc. Lots of light wind areas. The 150 really brings the boat to life. Larry On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 23:33:17 -0500 "Gilbert Landin" <gilbert(a)mindgame.com> writes: > What size sail did you use Larry? Don't you sail in Texas? > > -----Original Message----- > From: > montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+gilbert=mindgame.com@mailman.xmission.co m] > On Behalf Of Larry E Yake > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 11:25 PM > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: roller furling > > I have the FF2, just because the bearings seemed like a good idea. > Love > it. Either one would work. > Larry > > On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 22:46:02 -0500 "Gilbert Landin" > <gilbert(a)mindgame.com> writes: > > CDI roller furler for M-17 FF1 or FF2? > > > > gilbert > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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for those list-lurkers who would ...
by Craig F. Honshell 30 Apr '05

30 Apr '05

... like first-hand experience sailing a Montgomery 17', how 'bout a bareboat charter in Mexico?! http://www.sonoransportcenter.com/sailing_page.html

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