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Happy Birthday, Ralf!
by volvo1971＠att.net 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

57 years old and still got the funk! The album TDF is finally shipping here in the USA. Soon I can hear the entire Vitamin song instead of 30-second clips. Mike F

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Re: That movie
by kraftwerk＠fellhauer.de 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

See the attached file for details

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[Kraftwerk] VB: TDF Soundtracks: Never mind the lazy journalists, What do you think of it?
by johan.andersson＠allers.aller.se 20 Aug '03

20 Aug '03

As my last mail on this issue ( *snip* ...long carbon copy of my (Johan's) opinions about the new album... *snip* ) was easily misunderstood (I was not being sarcastic) I here try to make it a bit more clear... What I meant was that I didn't have to write my opinion to the list, because Ian had exactly the same opinions as me, NOT that I already had expressed these opinions on the list. To sum it up: I share Ian's point of view 100%, and I think we will be discussing this a lot more. Regards / Johan

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY RALF...
by music＠technopop.com.br 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

People, Ralf HÃŒtter completes 57 years today (20/08/2003). See special homage at home of our website. Best regards, Dante de Conti Marcelo Duarte http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br http://www.robato.com.br Brasil PS: This special page will be always available at http://kraftwerk.technopop.com.br/index-ralf-birthday.php

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RE: [Kraftwerk] More Karl Bartos dates in the UK
by Enrique Correa 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

Can someone tell me if the House of Blues date I've seen (Sept 18th?) on the web is official? I'm planning to go, but don't want to buy tickets yet until I see something official in Karl's website. Hey, if any of you plan to attend that concert, e-mail me privately so we can meet for a few drinks before the show! Thanks, E > -----Original Message----- > From: Klaus Zaepke [SMTP:Klaus.Zaepke@gmx.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:41 AM > To: Music, non-stop. > Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] More Karl Bartos dates in the UK > > > > Karl Bartos will play the following dates, tickets on sale now: > > Tues 21/10/03 Glasgow, King Tut's Wah Wah Hut > > Wed 22/10/03 London, University Of London Union > > I've been told there should be one in Manchester too. > > Yes, Mon 20/10/03 Manchester, University > See http://www.karsten-jahnke.de/tournee.php3?tour=bartos# > > Klaus Zaepke > > > _______________________________________________ > Kraftwerk mailing list > Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk

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More Karl Bartos dates in the UK
by Mark J Stagg 19 Aug '03

19 Aug '03

http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk Karl Bartos will play the following dates, tickets on sale now: Tues 21/10/03 Glasgow, King Tut's Wah Wah Hut Wed 22/10/03 London, University Of London Union I've been told there should be one in Manchester too. Staggboy

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RE: [Kraftwerk] KRAFTWERK NO.1 IN GERMANY !!!
by Enrique Correa 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Eddy wrote: > The Album enter the Charts at No.1 !!! > For the first time they got an No.1 Position in his > Motherland !!! Yeah! I'm happy for them. At least they are cashing in before the rest of the world catches up to sampling the crap out of it. IMHO, Electro Kardiogramm has a lot of material that could be sampled. I got my TdFS copy last Saturday from amazon.co.uk and I can honestly say that is a brilliantly produced record. Might not be as groundbreaking as many of their previous efforts, but at this point in my life (and theirs) that's not relevant anymore. A peak has been reached, and everything after that, is like the cherry on a cake or a gift not expected. Ralf and Co., keep them coming, I (and those people who put you in the top of the charts) support you all the way. I hope the 17 yrs in the making was like waiting for a bus. None shows up and then, all of the sudden, two or three come to the stop at the same time. E

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My own private review
by Luca Dassi 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Having listened a couple of dozen times to TDF03, Im ready to express my opinion: First of all, my overall impression on the album as a whole is, as Homer Simpson would put it Boring! theres a definite lack of melodies, themes are recycled once too often, most instrumental parts dont have the depth and sheer musical brilliance of the fugues that abounded in previous KW albums. The track layout doesnt help either, because the worst tracks are located at the beginning and at the end (excluding the original TDF, of course) resulting in an almost unbearably lengthy "Side A", and to a very poor album closure. I find particularly annoying the use of extremely inexpressive robot voices, as in most part of Tour de France or La Forme etc. BTW I always loved KWs robotic voices and found them very expressive and generally very fit to the sound of their tracks. In this album they seem to use a toneless robot voice (often accompanied by a second, echoing one) as a mean to avoid putting a melody to the lyrics. Nevertheless, some tracks are quite worthy and I will admit that some are real growers. Tour De France Etape 1-2-3 + Chrono : Basically, a single track diluted to its maximum extent and even further. Etape 2 is by far the most enjoyable, especially because it dumps that inexpressive robot voice in favour of an almost human vocoded singing. It could easily have been a very good 7 minute track I admit that when I hear that Radio Tour - Information for the 10th time of so I hit the skip button on my remote. Vitamin: Very good the backing is quite original, the melodies are nice and appropriate, the lyrics are very Kraftwerkian and have that little bit of irony we expect from our beloved four. Aero-Dynamik + Titanium: Good and funny very airy as a whole and with some exciting sounds. Elektro-Kardiogramm: Very good the sort of song you would expect from those who gave you man-machine and electric cafe. I love these human sounds mixed with modern ones (thats what KW always did best). La Forme + Regeneration: Almost embarrassing. These tracks start with an appalling theme played with a cheesy retro sound and evolve, so to speak, in a boring repetition of words (*these* robotic voices make their reappearance) without any musical subtlety whatsoever. These tracks have a role, however: they fill up ten minutes of CD space and make the final Tour De France seem even more enjoyable than it is... All in all, I suspect this will be an album that everyone will buy but that very few will listen many times to. My half euro, Luca

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"Copy Controlled" album ?
by henrik.olsson＠equant.com 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

The "Tour De France Soundtracks" album sold in Sweden is "Copy Controlled" with a sticker on the front, and "Copy Controlled printing" on the back. Also, the CD has the "Copy Controlled logo" printed on it. (CD made by "EMI UDEN") Does this apply to the CD´s sold elsewhere, or is the album available without "Copy Controlled" ? //Henrik

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LP Problems?
by John Shilcock 18 Aug '03

18 Aug '03

Hello, I've just got hold of the new CD (I will be listening to it for the first time tonight), but I have had problems getting a copy of the Vinyl edition. The Major stores in Oxford Street London did not have a delivery and are uncertain when they will get them. Sister Ray (a smaller store) said it could be a couple of weeks before they get copies. Come to think of it, I've not seen any promo copies around either. Has anyone seen a vinyl copy in any format? Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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