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a final and indeed very serious warning to amir (webmaster@slystone.com)!
by ..::=|X|=::.. 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

"thanks" to omega chance and his reply for bringing the following utter bullshit to my attention: 6/3/02 11:00:14 PM, webmaster(a)slystone.com wrote: > Kevin Busby wrote: > >> Never mind Webmaster, he has killfiled all my "addies" too. Woe! > >----------------------- > > Anyone who says KW borrowed from hip hop needs a very active killfile. fact is that i've never said anything like this, but utter idiots like this amir guy (webmaster(a)slystone.com) are simply way too stupid to ever understand, what i've indeed meant with my postings, concerning the connection between hip hop and kraftwerk! once and for all: hip hop already existed before kraftwerk released their very influential t.e.e. album in 1977, lots of hip hop deejays played t.e.e. and/or sampled that record (like afrika bambaataa in "planet rock") later, and in 1986 kraftwerk returned that favor and took a part of hip hop (beatboxing) as an influence for their "boing boom tschak" opening track for their (rerecorded) album "electric cafe" (formerly "techno-pop"). that's it! > Our brother didn't sign off his last e-mail to me with "brother" or "peace:" > Subject: > Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:18:11 +0200 > From: "..::=|X|=::.." <futurelectronx(a)geekmail.de> > To: webmaster(a)slystone.com as a matter of fact, the last message that this amir guy unsolicited and without my permission sent to this list was a private message from me that doesn't belong here, but as the attention grabbing bastard that he is, he felt compelled to repost it here, to try to grab even more attention! what a utterly sad bastard he is! shame on him! okay then, if he doesn't stop posting his utter bullshit here, then he'll have to face the bitter consequences of it! that's a promise! (no matter, what you think it is!) to kevin busby: is this what you wanted and what you very obviously needed, you stupid asshole!? to all: be careful with what you'll post in reply to this, as it can (by now!) very easily spawn a very malicious flame war that isn't necessary at all, if this amir guy will finally back down and shut the fuck up! otherwise he (and everybody, who supports him!) will learn it the hard way! that's also a promise! now, it's up to you (all) to keep the peace on this list! ..::=|X|=::..

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Computer Love.
by John Shilcock 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

Rob Said: >It depends what your definition of a "troll" is. I was once called one because I said I did not like the song "Computer Love", and I was immediately killfiled Erik Said: >Even though it might not make you a troll, that is indeed a very controversial opinion to hold on a Kraftwerk list. ;) And I say... No matter how hard I try... I still don't like Tour De France... :o) Now... it's just so much fun us all being different! Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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goodbye!
by ..::=|X|=::.. 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

i've joined this list to talk to other kraftwerk fans and to share my knowledge about them and their music- and also about their influences, but sadly there are some stupid assholes on this list, like this amir guy, who doesn't even know the term and the meaning of the word beatboxing and who has absolutely no clue about the true history of hip hop! all he and his ilk wants is to distract the list with his utter bullshit postings, which is a real shame! i have better things to do in my life than to fight such stupid assholes! sadly this list seems to be cursed with such sad individuals from time to time. no moderator, stupid assholes who only distract the list and the very obvious lack of knowledge about some plain (musical and historical) facts make it indeed very hard to enjoy such a list. therefore i'll quit it and leave you alone with the mess, as i'm simply not at all interested in such utter bullshit anymore! p.s.: if you have something constructive to say/reply, then please send me a private message, as i'll leave this list immediately after this message! goodbye! ..::=|X|=::..

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Re: Kraftwerkfans unite!
by E-Media 06 Jun '02

06 Jun '02

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Oliver=20Ruehl?= <virtualfront(a)yahoo.de> > Well, now it's 144 real members, because I just signed off! Thank you! Albeit I still remember your name from long ago, you've NEVER contributed ANYTHING to ANY of the lists I'm on in the past 18 months or so! :( Who really needs "members" like you, who only raise their ugly heads, if they like to complain about pretty unimportant things, eh? ABSOLUTELY NOBODY! > Congratulations E-Media/Oh Jay to your many friends in > the virtual world! I still would prefer friends in real life. I have both of them and I'm actually quite happy about that! :) > You're talking about quality? First bring some quality > into your postings here, before you're asking for it from others. Fyi: The great majority of my postings here or elsewhere surely have much more quality than your pitiful attempt to "join in the chant" to criticise me, which ONLY shows what kind of character you really have! Your nothing but AN OPPORTUNIST! > Some people seem to forget that these lists are about > Kraftwerk and not a forum for stupid and silly > personal wars against each other. I follow those > discussions here since a few months and I think that > the main content on both of this lists have nothing to > do with the music of Kraftwerk anymore... If you've REALLY followed the discussions in the Kraftwerkfans group, than you would know that more than 90% of the messages are STRICTLY about Kraftwerk and related topics or projects! Otherwise they are clearly marked with an OT tag in the subject line! Well, you are obviously dyslexic, if you've missed that PLAIN FACT! > I personally have something better than to read such > silly emails like Oh Jays when I come home from work. I wonder why you haven't left the group earlier than, eh? > I am interested in Kraftwerk and electronic music in > general but not in those silly discussions... Same as me! But some people - incl. YOU! - seem to "enjoy" it, to contribute to such silly discussions ON the lists, instead of OFF LIST! :( Btw: 2 new members joined the Kraftwerkfans list today, 1 member left the list, 7 people mailed me off list TO SUPPORT ME and ABSOLUTELY NOBODY had the guts to criticise me off list - for very obvious reasons! These are just THE PLAIN FACTS and very easy to prove for me! ;) Go figure! - EM_2002 (you know who! ;)

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Discarded Robots
by pop-trash＠webtv.net 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

I must be a *Ghost* Why am I being ignored? Can someone kindly explain what have I done to barred from this list? So this is the way it works!? I was under the impression I was joining a list created for Kraftwerk fans to be able communicate with those who wanted to discuss kraftwerk-related topics, I thought it would be nice to keep in-touch with others who share a common interest in music.

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Discarded Robots
by pop-trash＠webtv.net 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

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Re: [Kraftwerk] "Commercial" Kraftwerk
by AndrewNelles1＠aol.com 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

I discovered kraftwerk in a diffrent way, im probably one of the yonger members of the group (im 15) i basically barrowed my dads autobahn LP, loved it then bought all their other albums and countless bootlegs, i would say they are one of if not my favorite band.

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"Commercial" Kraftwerk
by MICHAEL FRAZIER 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

Many people scoff at The Model as being nothing but a commercial vehicle. But that's how I and I'd bet many others discovered Kraftwerk. I think I saw the video on MTV in the days when they actually played music videos. I saw it once and had the rhythm in my head for years, but forgot the song name and artist. Then I found out it was Kraftwerk, but didn't catch the song title. So I started buying their records until I found it. Ended up liking everything they did. My point is, The Model is still one of my favorite KW songs. Mike F Somewhere in Ohio

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Computer Love, Neon Lights
by MICHAEL FRAZIER 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

I love the original Computer Love. I also think it's very beautiful. The Mix's version also is very well-done. I also love Neon Lights. The last five minutes are wonderful. Right now my favorite album is Man Machine. I also have a fondness for Radioactivity. I would sometimes fall asleep to that album...it's very soothing to me. Risking some major flames here, the only KW song I can't stand listening to is the original version of Robots. I think I overlistened to it years ago. I do like the Mix version, especially the Kling Klang mixes on the CD-single. Haven't written the list in a while, but have been reading it. Mike F. Somewhere in Ohio, USA

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by Per Davidson 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

the video for global fussball OK can be found at http://www.nordic.mtve.com/asppost/genPlaylist.asp?target=/mtve/nordic/feat… now I have to get some sleep..good night...

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