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Re: OT : killfiles update 2.0 ... or END_OF_COMMUNICATION_!!!
by Oh Jay 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

georgie from vienna wrote : > The use of some words (especially here in the last days) > may be "virtually", but their meaning is not. > Today, they're "just" words, tomorrow, words have become bombs. that's why i wrote already MANY_TIMES_BEFORE & also in my last messages here that IT'S_HIGH_TIME_FOR_A_REAL_CHANGE in this place ... or it's even best to completely shut this list down , if it continues like this !!! :-/ > This list has become uncomfortable. "uncomfortable" jus' isn't the right word in this case !!! :-o SIMPLY_ANNOYIN' fits it much more ... imho , of course !!! :-/ oh jay *~\^/~*

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( re : ) "WEHRET_DEN_ANFÄNGEN_!!!"
by Oh Jay 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

> Jawoll, mein Fuehrer! > > Gruesse aus Wien, > Georgie well ... all i say in return in this case is "WEHRET_DEN_ANFÃ„NGEN_!!!" :-o oh jay *~\^/~*

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Re: OT : killfiles update 2.0 ... or END_OF_COMMUNICATION_!!!
by Oh Jay 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

/* Soleil */ wrote : > Hey, can I be added too? not now ... > I've never been killfiled by a troll before. fyi : the trolls on this list are people like rob evans & amir !!! > That'll me amusing. if u find such a flame war so "amusin'" , then u should better prepare to "die" in it ... "virtually" , of course !!! > Rob's mistake was to ask you to explain it _again_. rob's CONSTANT mistake is it that HE'S_NOTHIN'_BUT_A_PAIN_IN_THE_ASS_!!! *sigh* :-o he simply DOESN'T know or understand , when it's better to keep quiet !!! :-/ that's why HE'S_A_TROLL_!!! he only provokes trouble & stirs up another controversy , where a peaceful & also mindful discussion should take place instead !!! *sigh* :-o that's why HE'S_"GUILTY" ... & why HE'LL_PAY_FOR_IT_!!! PERIOD_!!! > How can you do it again when you've never done it at all? fyi : jus' read the messages in which i've explained it in the past here SEVERAL_TIMES & also VERY_CLEARLY ... or simply shut the faq up too , mate !!! *yawn* :-o oh jay a.k.a. the SCAPEGOAT of this list , which ONLY proves , what kind of pitiful character some people have here !!! :-/ *~\^/~*

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Re: OT : killfiles update 2.0
by Oh Jay 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

this mark reed person wrote : > Whoo-hoo! I rejoice. haven't u said that u've already killfiled me , U_PLAIN_LIAR_!? :-o so much for your lack of credibility , asshole !!! :-/ > That's called a typo, by the way, whereas you are just illiterate. *LOL* ;-))) well ... i'm "illiterate" enough to actually have done more than 700 ( !!! ) interviews in german & also in ENGLISH since 1995 , with people like the late & great oskar sala ( more than 3 hours of material !!! ;-) , a guy , who use to call himself "don" schneider lately ( ;-) , moby ( 5 interviews in 5 years !!! ;-) & HUNDREDS of other people , who are ALL_VERY_WELL_KNOWN in the world of music !!! *slyest_grin_u_can_imagine* ;-))) so WHO_THE_FAQ_ARE_U , u sad lil' bastard , to tell me that i'm "illiterate" , eh !? >:-O u are jus' A_WASTE_OF_OXYGENE & A_BLOODY_MISCARRIAGE_OF_NATURE , mr. reed !!! :-/ why don't u jus' FUCK_OFF_&_DIE right now , eh ??? :-o that would really be the best for ALL of us !!! WELCOME ... to my killfiles RIGHT_NOW_!!! oh jay

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Re: [Kraftwerk] Re: Analog vs. Digital
by jtalbert 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

> > Digital synths have come a long way especially with Waldorf's Q..... One > > of the programmers for Waldorf came up with one of THE BEST FILTERS yet > > on a digital synth. It was modeled from the older PPG Wave 2.2 and 2.3 > > (((which Gary Numen used A LOT))) Digital synths are a lot more stable > > and actually stay in tune!!! ;) Even R & F use some Waldorf equipment.. > > the Microwave 1.... both digital and analog. (((I have one too heh heh > > ))) > > > > I'm sure R & F are "gear junkies" just like the rest of musicians are!!! > > ;) > > > > Regards, > > Christian Claycomb > > Hehe, thanks for an educative reply Christian :) > If what you're saying is true then there may still be some hope! > I just had a bad digital moment.. I can't for the world in me believe why > everybody is so hooked up on digital crap when it's so obviously inferior > in most ways ,) > > Cheers, > Peo > I would certainly regard myself as a major fan of analog gear, although I have a reasonable percentage of digital instruments as well. I tend to view two types of sound creation in completely different ways. If digital is used for what it does best, it can be a wonderful tool in its own right. Likewise, analog has its own character and can be used for many things that digital can't effectively render. As a side note, I personally enjoy the unpredictability of analog synths (although many of the newer ones can be more stable than I'd prefer - like the Waldorf Pulse) It makes these machines seem alive! Its always pleasing for me to hear the slight analog pitch drift - especially when layering sounds or playing polyphonically. I find that it is the (slight) instability of the oscillators that gives analog its warmth (as well many other physical components). Of course, the frightening instability of the Moog stuff certainly made performing live very much an adventure! :-) During the period that Kraftwerk became inactive, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't the new digital technology itself, but more likely ONE single instrument - the dreaded Yamaha DX7! Yes, the wonderful and powerful instrument that it was, it was a major challenge to program it with its unfamiliar FM architecture, tiny LCD screen and single data entry slider (an interface that unfortunately too many other manufacturers decided to switch to!). But today, there are so many great musical tools available between pure analog, digital, computer-based, and analog/digital hybrids that Kraftwerk may actually be in the height of their experimental and musical creativity in Kling Klang. Unfortunately, someone needs to remind them part the door every now and then to release an experiment or two for their unspeakably hungry fans. Kindest regards, John Efofex - Sound of Electronics http://www.efofex.net/

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How old
by Nat Heidler 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

Ahem. Could we get back to KW, electronic music in general or some other topic? I am 34, by the way. Nat Somewhere in Kansas, USA -----Original Message----- From: omegaChance [mailto:omegaChance@firemail.de] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:57 PM To: kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Kraftwerk] p. s. : to those ASSHOLE , who subscribed my e-mail addy to some PORNO services ... How old is everyone here again? Signed, omegaChance http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance _______________________________________________ Kraftwerk mailing list Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk

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Re: Nice e-mail!
by Oh Jay 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

arthur wrote : > the netiquette says, that private mails should never be posted.... do u really think that people like rob evans & amir ( webmaster(a)slystone.com ) actually care about it @ all , arthur !? :-o they are jus' some utterly sad ( & also mad !!! ) attention grabbin' bastards , who don't get what they want , because i've chosen to ignore them completely by now & that makes them so damned furious !!! :-/ anyway ... i really DON'T give a faq about it anymore , if they live or die or if they continue to penetrate this list with their utter bullshit any longer , as they are actively killfiled & absolutely NO message from them will EVER reach my inbox again , which makes them even more mad , albeit they are already COMPLETELY_INSANE_!!! *sigh* :-o they should really take their medication by now & go back to the mental asylum , where they've once escaped from to let us others here get back to talk about the main topic of this list or @ least to have some good fun ... even if it's off topic then !!! ;-) however ... many greetinx to all the SANE people on this list !!! :-) oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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Re: OT : killfiles update 2.0
by Oh Jay 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

an idiot called mark reed blubbered : > Thanks Oh Jay, but you're in my killfile yourself primarily because > you can't spell, seem granmatically challenged, *ROTFLMAO* ;-))) fyi : the word is actually spelled "GRAMMatically" & NOT "GRANMAtically" ... albeit it's a really funny mistake , u waste of oxygene !!! *still_LOL* ;-))) > and seem to be do overdoing the smileys :)))) so what , eh ??? :-o > Or.. to put this in OJ speak > "Tanx, but ure in my killfile uself cos' u can't spell > and overdoin' the smileys which are annoyin' " oh well ... u are even WAY_TOO_FAQIN'_STUPID to imitate me KorreKtly , u silly lil' kid !!! *sigh* :-o > Ain't abuse of grammar a wonderful thing? NOT if it comes from a native english speaker , who should know his own language much better !!! :-/ sorry mark , but as the complete waste of oxygene that u are , i'll have no other option than to add u to my active killfiles too !!! :-o oh jay

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new releases by anthony rother! (was: Re: New Bartos album (old news?))
by ..::=|X|=::.. 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

while karl bartos is "werking" on his new album (probably also together with anthony rother?), anthony rother has a new single called "die macht" and a new album called "hacker" out now or soon to be released! this shortens the wait for another new kraftwerk, bartos and yamo album immensely for me personally. ;) peace, y' all! ..::=|X|=::..

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RE: Analog vs. Digital
by MICHAEL FRAZIER 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

"Sure, today's stuff is really advanced and can be used for very nice things, but the old stuff is much more intelligent in a way, " I think electronic music of the past sounds the way it does because you had to work harder to get those sounds. These days it seems too easy to turn on a keyboard, punch a few programming keys, and presto! Electronik rhythms all around! Back then, you need some scopes, reliable vacuum tubes and lots and lots of tinkering. They built their own instruments and electronic drums, for crying out loud! I think that's fascinating. It was a labour of love in uncharted territory. No digital sampling. No digital recording. No non-linear editing. Just drag out the good old 16- or 32- or 64- track reel-to-reel and tinker away. Maybe that's why some KW fans aren't fond of the Mix. Kraftwerk discovered a new country. Now they and many others are living in this country and benefiting from the fruits of KW's labour. After all, weren't they one of the firsts to use sampling on Electric Cafe? I still think they can use their gift of sound layering on new recordings. Don't worry so much about being innovative. Just make more beautiful music. Mike F Somewhere in Ohio

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