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kraftwerk VCDs
by Eduardo Monteiro 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Dear friend. I am fan of the Kraftwerk since 1974 (!!!) and I do not place in quarrel my admiration for the geniuses of electronic music. But as fan, I feel myself frustrate for not finding in the store material " official " as videos and CDs concerts. We are obliged to buy the weight of gold the rarities that eventually appear for there. Already I paid expensive for itens of the KRAFTWERK and consider my collection very valuable.. Therefore, if somebody to want to have something similar, unhappyly will have that to follow path the same. I am being cold and calculating? Perhaps. Perhaps but this also is a form TO VALUE the workmanship of the KRAFTWERK and not to leave that it is poor in the whole world. In addition, this is a democratic stack and alone for you to have an idea, already I received 5 e-mails from people wanting the VCDs. If it was not through this stack, these fans would not have knowledge of that I possess for sale. Swaps do not interest me, therefore I have a collection that it has covered all the periods of the Kraftwerk, since the times of the Organisation. Boing! Boom! Tschak! Eduardo

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by owlwatcher_974 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

I think that eduardo should have kept quiet after his first attempt to sell the vcds. After all, if anybody had been interested in buying from him, they would have probably contacted him when they saw his first post. But eduardo insisted on continuing to try to sell the vcds on a mailing list (which I think is in poor taste in the first place because trying to sell stuff on a mailing list is usually considered a form of spam). Then eduardo continued to escalate matters when he decided to be a total jackass ... which was a bad move altogether. As far as Oh Jay's response to this whole matter, I think that Oh Jay should probably learn to calm down a bit before typing any repsonses. Not that I think Oh Jay has done anything wrong.. just that the name calling and the angry words just get in the way of things and make the person reading the message tune out the rest of the message. As far as ethics go.. I can't even say anything about that because I am guilty of buying bootlegs .. and, if I was desperate for money, I would have no problems making myself a copy of the bootleg in question then selling the original. Only difference is that I would sell mine on ebay instead of spamming a mailing list. At this point however, the whole thread has turned into a war that would have probably ended much sooner if eduardo had just kept quiet .. That's my point of view and now I will return to the sidelines and continue to watch.. hoping things will cool down so we can all move on to more meaningful topics. -- On Sat, 23 Mar 2002 21:02:59 Rob Evans wrote: >>*watches the continuing battle from the sidelines and sighs* >> >>round and round they go... where will they stop? only heaven knows... > >What is your view on this, because there is no use standing aloofly on the >sidelines without expressing an opinion....the battle is actually drawing to >a close if you read carefully > >Rob > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >_______________________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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this man speaks the truth !!! ( was Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs )
by Oh Jay 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

From: Lemmens Geert > ok, that was definetly the wrong answer Eduardo.... > now everybody else can start replying again > maybe quiting this list is the best sollution > because some people just don't know when to stop arguing > about the same topic > let it go people... KUDOS to u , geert !!! *sincerest_look* i really admire u for makin' this point so clear !!! so LISTEN_TO_THAT_MAN , because he speaks the whole truth !!! *utmost_honest_look* oh well ... sometimes i really wish that i wouldn't be THAT "emotional" !!! *sigh* :-o anyway ... it's over now !!! i'm done with it & hopefully we can return to talk about kw & related "stuff" here ... like usual !!! *indeed_very_hopeful_look* however ... many greetinx , oh jay ;-) *~\^/~*

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by Rob Evans 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

>NOBODY has attempted to jump into your debate (outside of mr evans, the >list's devil's advocate) ROTFLMAO I'm just taking part, that's all hahahahahaha Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by Rob Evans 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

>*watches the continuing battle from the sidelines and sighs* > >round and round they go... where will they stop? only heaven knows... What is your view on this, because there is no use standing aloofly on the sidelines without expressing an opinion....the battle is actually drawing to a close if you read carefully Rob _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by owlwatcher_974 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

*watches the continuing battle from the sidelines and sighs* round and round they go... where will they stop? only heaven knows... ____________________________________ >Kraftwerk mailing list >Kraftwerk(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kraftwerk > 2,000,000,000 Web Pages--you only need 1. Save time with My Lycos. http://my.lycos.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by Rob Evans 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Per-Olof Karlsson wrote: <grovsnus72(a)hotmail.com> >That's why I ask you to ignore things you don't like, and if you get >offended with something, >you could always direct your e-mails directly to the offender, instead of >ventilating your >personal opinions vividly when they simply aren't wanted. However, on a personal note, I find Oh Jay's style to be passionate and entertaining. Surely everyone's opinions should be listened to anyway? Isn't that the nature of a fair debate? We have disagreed many times (I have even been killfiled by him!) but I still listen to him. Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by Rob Evans 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

>Whats diference between >sales or swaps ?!? Is only the value of the items... We have discussed at great length the "ethics" of your offer, but your "business brain" chooses to ignore them... >For me, you are a children... That is bad advertising Rob. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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23 Mar '02

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