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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by omegaChance 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

I've been skipping anything under the Kraftwerk VCDs title. I asked for a discussion, but I had something else in mind... Signed, omegaChance Omega(a)herzeleid.net AIM: omegaChance ICQ: 96951338 http://www.mp3.com/omegaChance >On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, laerm wrote: > >> am i the only one who hit D on eduardo's original post and truly does not >> care about this whole mindless argument? _____________________________________________________________ Run a small business? Then you need professional email like you(a)yourbiz.com from Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net?tag

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Re: [Kraftwerk] New discovery leads to speculation...
by John Shilcock 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

>>The best "proof" that something was in the works is the inscription on the back saying "REJECT". This leads me into believing that there were actually plans for this one, but they were rejected. But all that "REJECT" can imply is that it was rejected for SOME reason and not that Kraftwerk changed their minds. Maybe it was rejected because of poor sound reproduction quality for example. >>This and the story I've got from the seller (who is a very serious dealer) leads me into believing that these lot of discs may be a personal collection of the records this engineer worked on? That's what I would do as an engineer anyway :) Yep... I can believe that an engineer could sneak back a copy that he's been working on... and kept them in a nice collection for himself... BUT for the reason why that disk was produced in the first place is STILL a mystery. Another thought that I've had.... this may not even be an 'official' Kraftwerk disk at all. Maybe a bootlegger tried to have the disk made up.... and while in mid process it was discovered that this was not 'official' the disk was 'rejected' by the pressing plant! It's just a thought.... which is all that we have. Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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Re: [Kraftwerk] New discovery leads to speculation...
by John Shilcock 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

>>Indeed.. but if the sound quality was bad there should be another press which isn't bad.. and a subsequent release.. Right? :) Right!... so.... it must have been rejected for some other reason. >>(indeed, the label reads "Gallo / Philips", and we know for a fact that this engineer worked at Gallo) Ahhh.. I didn't pick up on the point that there was a label!... So does anyone know if this is normal?..... i.e. if a record gets to acetate stage and then the record company and/or the artist change their mind the acetate is marked as 'reject' - and then, I presume, destroyed... unless the engineer decides to "put it in his pocket" *he he* >>It's too bad I don't have direct contact with this engineer... I'll try to pressure the seller to put us in contact! Yep... that WOULD be a good source of information! Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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Re: [Kraftwerk] New discovery leads to speculation...
by John Shilcock 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

>> ...could it be that Kraftwerk were intending to release "Tanzmusik" as their first single, but later scrapped the plan? It ALWAYS amazes me that little gems like this keep appearing!.. What an amazing find! So.. the FACT that there is an acetate would certainly lead us to believe that a release of Tanzmusik as a single was being thought about! But then again, could it not be for a small private release?... maybe an engineer made it up as a one off? (I don't know if this is possible... I'm just putting it forward as an idea?) >> Are there any facts hidden somewhere suggesting that this is a plausible idea? It IS a plausible idea... but.. right now the only FACT we have is that an acetate exists.. What it was produced for... we can all speculate on (and that's fun!).. unless someone has some documentation lurking about in the back of a drawer.....? Keep Werking John www.keepwerking.co.uk

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Re: [Kraftwerk] New discovery leads to speculation...
by Rob Evans 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

>I was a bit puzzled about the contents.. Why "Tanzmusik", I thought? >From a logical point of view, it would make sense for a band such as Kraftwerk to make it's first single to be called "Dance Music". Yet another puzzle to be solved in the ongoing confusion surrounding this amazing band..... Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Kraftwerk "coverers" festival
by Der Automat 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

Musician Elektrosher (aka Khosmaker) is organizing a sort of festival with several Spaniard bands who will make a cover version of a Kraftwerk song. More info as I get it. Khosmaker did some time ago an electro-bass cover version of "The Man Machine". DER AUTOMAT

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Re: [Kraftwerk] The Other Two
by Enrique Correa 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

>> And I have Eloy and TV Junk discs. They are really >> crap. Why did KW >> call The Other Two? They don't have a previous work >> that justified it. > How much do you guys know about the pre-Kraftwerk > history of Hilpert (sometimes Hijpert) and Schmitz? I > know some names, like Din-a-testbild, but nothing > else. Can anyone tell me more? Well, how about his involvement in ~ 1998 with "Men in Space"? Hilpert participated on that band as an engineer and keys I believe (don't remember exactly, I have the CD at home), he also wrote/co-wrote a couple of tunes, "The Formula" and "Frogs" (again, those titles might not be exactly the names, I'm doing this by memory). I really liked "The Formula" it has a lot of punch, speed and sharp edges. Kraftwerk influences on Hilpert are definitely there. I mentioned this very same thing several times before in this list, but never got any type of feedback from anybody. I'd recommend you to download that tune from your share file program as soon as you can, it's about the only thing I like about this kid Hilpert. I had the Din-A-Testbild CD, but since it sucked so much, I traded in for the new Boards of Canada, geogaddi (sp?) great CD by the way. E ps: if you can't find that tune anywhere, I'll try to upload it somewhere, if anybody wants to show me a link where I can do this, feel free to do it. Thanks.

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Komputer
by Der Automat 24 Mar '02

24 Mar '02

>From Mute Info news(a)mute.info to Mute Mailing List info(a)mutehq.co.uk: Subject: This Week at Mute (w/c 18 March 02) Live/DJing dates this week: Komputer play in the UK (London) As usual, full tour dates can be found at http://www.mute.com/mute/news/tour.htm Komputer play 3 shows in London in March & April - see http://www.mute.com/mute/komputer/komputer.htm for more information. DER AUTOMAT

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Re: [Kraftwerk] kraftwerk VCDs
by Rob Evans 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

>get a life , mate & PLEASE shut up , because this whole thread is beginnin' >to annoy me immensely by now !!! *grumble* :-/ We had better stop now, because Oh Jay is getting annoyed Rob _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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eduardo`s war...
by Eduardo Monteiro 23 Mar '02

23 Mar '02

Hello, partners, i`m here again.. I love KRAFTWERK since 1974... and i LIKE this mailing list too... So, if you want VCDs, i have three items for sale: - Live in Brazil, performed at the Free Jazz festival, ´98, with short and funny interview with Florian Schneider. - Live in Sheffield, amazing concert, filmed at 1991. (Numbers, Computer World, Radioactivity, TEE, Music Non Stop, The Model, etc) - Live in Leicetser University, double VCD, fantastic performance of my IDOLS. So, we talking about RARE ITEMS that you don´t find in the stores. Yes, i know, the people this list don´t like this topic, but, is the world and the mailing list is one way for someone to know about the excellent formats of midia. Is the REALITY : i got the money to buy more KRAFTWERK`s items. The discussion about SALES OR SWAPS is madness, because WE ALL WANTS THE SAME THINGS = official releases on VIDEO !!!!! - where to find it ????????? If you like "dowloads" by Internet, is the same thing = illegal, just not paid !! BOING !! BOOM ! TSCHAK ! Eduardo * I really like the Oh Jay, is very very funny....

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