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Re: OT [KLF] 911 = very fukd up
by Simon House 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

there is lots of info out there showing how corrupt the political system is, I dont take anything as gospel but do you really doubt the majority of it? Say only 5 percent of it were true thats still a big deal you know. Does everyone check out the claims of the News on their Sky TV or newspaper? There are plenty of people doing research and not all are over the top characters like Alex Jones or David Icke. What about whats been said by Noam Chomsky, John Pilger, Michael Moore, Jello Biafra, Michael Ruppert, Mark Thomas, Bill Hicks, Arundhati Roy, etc they are all very respectable and very clever people, and do you doubt their claims or know anything about their stuff? Check out Jon Ronson's book 'them' where he is also skeptical about such things but finds out and looses his bottle, leaving the book with no real conclusion but the facts are there. what about the fact that the bush family is far too corrupt to ever be in the running for any position of power, but I could have started 1 million well researched websites but unless many people are talking about such subjects it would mean anything so talking to people with taste would be surely be a start, or do you all just like the beats.. and thats it? what when the beats are stoped? I suppose people dont believe what they dont want to believe and sometimes they never will believe anything as long as they have a small piece of happiness and the sheep mentality is keeping them from straying too far into what they dont know. I hope y'all get my point! > > > do you not think its very > > very important to get people spreading this info as much as possible. > >Really, now, you are taking something someone posted to a mailing list - a >document claiming all sorts of conspiracy theories that's at least a year >old - >and believing every word of it as gospel. Im not saying it's true, I'm not >saying it's bullshit but you can't just accept such things blindly. That >only >makes you into a fool. Are you still waiting for that fat check from Bill >Gates for forwarding that email a few years back? I hope you get my point. > >You want to do something? Go to the library and start looking up the >original print sources for these claims. Just because it says it was in >Newsweek >doesn't mean it really was. Once you've satisfied yourself that every >word is >true then you can start "doing something" like getting on the radio to make >people aware, or creating a website. > > > Dont know about your morals mate but thats a wee bit more important > > than the KLF, and more important that you discussing whether this is > > relevant or not. > >Incorrect. This is a list discussing a pop group. Political discussion, >unless inspired by the antics of said group (ie money burning), are >irrelevent >here. If you want to talk politics or conspiracy theories there are plenty >of >other forums to do this. At klf(a)mailman.xmission.com the only thing that's >important are the KLF. > >-paul > >Currently in rotation: Frank Zappa - Cheap Thrills / Son of Cheep Thrills; >Enigma - Voyager (advance) > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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Re: [KLF] know know
by winston cousier 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

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Re: [KLF] LAST IRONING BOARD TO TRANCENTRAL
by Simon House 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

i cant beleive you are doubting that GW and crew allowed this to happen? Take your head out of your ass! i expected a little more inteligence from people intrested enough in the KLF to keep talking about them. Do you really trust these bastards!? Dont you think there is something seriously wrong in societies in general all over the world? why is this happening and why are people contunally fighting for fuck all? Is it because they want to or are there a string of people (not jews! before you start whinging), that have intrests in seeing these wars occur!? > > > What can everyone do > > to help the future not be so shit as it will be the way we are going? I > > think everyone who read what i put before (+ i've enclosed it again), > > seriously everyone check it out > >My final comment on this (yea!) > and one I've already made. > >This is a document that is at least a year old, probably grabbed off some >website somewhere or some other mailing list. > >No one in their right mind is going to take something like this as gospel >truth. There is no reliable, checkable bibliography attached to it. I can >write >a document in which I claim TIME reports that the moonwalk never really >happened. Are you supposed to believe it because I say I read it in TIME? >No. >It'd different if I said it was in TIME Vol 26, issue 7 in article called >xxx by >xxx. At least you can go look up the article and read it yourself. > >If you want people to take this nonsense seriously then you need to do the >legwork and come up with proof. Otherwise you're just an annoyance. > >-paul >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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Re: [KLF] 911 = very fukd up again
by Simon House 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

hey who's joking, this isnt a joke so stop treating it like some school ground argument. You are not even discussing the information i gave just talking about why you dont like reading it. The point in listing loads of information and names of companies involved in the arms trade hopefully makes people think, talk etc fuck me do I really need to explain that by discussing a problem it may lead to more and more people demanding change. are you on purpose trying to waste my time? Considering that you seem to care so much about the aniversary of many peoples deaths you dont actually seem to want to change anything. Of course we are being monitored. So fucking what. Its too late to worry about shit like that. we've already discussed why i chose to do this on a KLF related list, its because i love the KLF and what they stood for and presumed other fans of this no compromise group were also open minded and forward thinking. So you live in hungary, so i live in england so people live where they live and thats that, yeah its good to have a living and a wage and stuff but whats that got to do with this? What are you saying that because you need a living you'd accept a million pounds from some fucker to blow something up so you family could eat forever? its not related. Neither did i say grow a moustache and get a gun did I?! TALK IS NOT VIOLENT!!!! and why should your life you love be so seperated from work and normal life? I know what you mean but surely this is bad and because of people not being able to relate etc. PS if you're so worried about mentioning the illuminatus trilogy i sugest you stop mentioning it! PS there is an excellent DVD out called DiSinformation with a talk from Robert Anton Wilson on there. SEE YA > >>sorry just read this bit. when did i ever mention vilence? You get the >>wrong idea, fuck knows where from ybut you got it. Where did i mention >>violence? Surely the only way forward is a spread of information till >>people stop acting like evil ignorant peices of shit. also you may be >>happy working for shit and paying taxes to > >So will the world be a better place when You post a hundred million names? >NO. Then what are You up to? Or do You wanna get in trouble? You ARE being >monitored even when You post this! > >You didn't mention violence, I thought it laid among Your lines. Since the >anniversary is coming, someone posted a message about the 2001 sept events. >I don't know what's the point doing it in a music-related list. And saying >it's "fukd up". >Question: did people really died when that thing happened? >Answer: YES. So there are 364 other days in a year when anybody can claim >that it wasn't happening then, or it was plotted. But now now. It's like >joking with atom bomb on the Hiroshima anniversary. That's it for me. > >>cunts but ask anyone in the 3rd world about the butt fuck. Of course > >I live in the Middle-Eastern Europe (post-pinko) so I know what I know. The >reality is that You gotta have a living and a job, cause if You don't, >You'll end up homeless, that's the way it goes in Hungary niowadays. And >even when You're working like a dog they may fire You. And the taxes are >going up. I don't like this either but I don't wanna grow a moustache and >buy a pair of guns and change my name to Charles Bronson. Of course the >gov. have its bite from me but I have my own life very apart from my work >and "normal" life. That keeps me going. > >If You read the Illuminatus! books then You should know that mentioning >them is not the wisest thing in the world, especially naming them. Instead >of this go and see the fnords -I can see them everywhere, and nowadays I'm >seeing more fnords than usual, if You get my meaning. > >And about the people: PANEM ET CIRCENSES, as the Romans said. Everybody (or >the vast majority) is kept busy with 9-5 jobs and then going home watching >reality shows or football matches and drinking beer or tea. That's it. >Modern life is rubbish. But we all know this already. That's why we are >HERE. > >>its everyones fault and problem for allowing this shit to go off so its >>surely time to talk about it. > >Yeah surely but not in a band-related mailing list. > >a Gyerek > >"I just don't understand the ways of the world today, >sometimes I feel like there's nothing to live for, >so I'm longing for the days of yesterday" >(TLC: Sumthin' Wicked This Way Comes) > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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Re: [KLF] LAST IRONING BOARD TO TRANCENTRAL
by TheMgnt＠aol.com 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

> What can everyone do > to help the future not be so shit as it will be the way we are going? I > think everyone who read what i put before (+ i've enclosed it again), > seriously everyone check it out My final comment on this (yea!) and one I've already made. This is a document that is at least a year old, probably grabbed off some website somewhere or some other mailing list. No one in their right mind is going to take something like this as gospel truth. There is no reliable, checkable bibliography attached to it. I can write a document in which I claim TIME reports that the moonwalk never really happened. Are you supposed to believe it because I say I read it in TIME? No. It'd different if I said it was in TIME Vol 26, issue 7 in article called xxx by xxx. At least you can go look up the article and read it yourself. If you want people to take this nonsense seriously then you need to do the legwork and come up with proof. Otherwise you're just an annoyance. -paul

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RE: [KLF] subject
by Don Gagen 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

I think it probably has to do with rules of posting on this list which "should" deal only with the KLF and related projects. Small point...Cauty has bowel movements, and so do most terrorists. However it's a tenuous link. A few complaints are a lot better than getting booted from the list which used to be the alternative. In general if it goes too far off topic just put OT in the subject and it tends to make everyone a lot happier. Don ________________________________ From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of gene.c Sent: Tue 9/9/2003 5:58 AM To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [KLF] subject man some of you sound like hitler or ossama or hussain.No you cant talk about that here or No you cant talk about this here.my god wot pethetic wibblings .its a forum ,yes set up to discuss klf related matters,but if its of interest why not talk about whatever one wants to.get of your thrones guys come back to earth.talk about everything.its good to talk.(small point...cauty thought enough about wars to make statements,terrorism comes about becouse of wars,terrorism makes conversation,theres a link.)man im scared to send this incase i get in trouble ,becouse ive only mentioned 1 klf member in this post and nothing about what klf have done in the past.get over it guys .

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Re: [KLF] gyerek (ironing theme)/A Vasalás Témája
by KLF- gyerek 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

>man u sound like a jobsworth.do you iron your socks and undies,i bet you >do.what happens if a sock gets in the wrong draw ? national emergency or >what. I NEVER iron anything, because there's no use, You'll wear it anyway and by the end of the day it'll be dirty. And I'm not in one of those "dress up nicely"-jobs. I look like a mess. And I even got holes in my socks. Now I gotta go home, but on Thursday I'll change You dressing, ironing and lipstick tips. Sorry for being a Pan in the ass (as for the butt-fuck theme). Till then: "A vasalássssssss.........témája." _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: [KLF] know know
by thomas＠klf.de 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

> some dedicated fans and some peeps who > have moved on in life but still like to > stay in contact with whats going on. There is nothing wrong about that. And I guess there is no hardcore KLF fan on this list who is totally addicted by B&J without time or interests in anything else. See, I try to update the KLF Online news every other week. I still roam the eBay pages to find some of the items I am still missing. I try to sneak in KLF references in almost all of my office and private environment. I even went to London last year just for the M25 event at the Barbican where I met B&J live and in full color. I am quite dedicated, but still I moved on in life. So did all of us. We still want to know what happens in Mu Mu Land, so some of us try to keep this mailing list a "better place", pointing out random posts that got nothing to do with The KLF and their ongoing history. The KLF didn't invent the conspiracy game, they just (heavily) used it in many of their works and projects. Just a short example - Ford Timelord was a Ford Galaxy 1968. If there was someone who is totally dedicated to cars (and maybe this particular one especially) and wants to find out about some of its technical specifications, he should still try the proper mailing list or even a newsgroup. Same goes for Simon House and his ongoing conspiracy mail spamming. I hope I made myself clear.

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Re: Sept 11
by Raymond Baal 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

Look to put this whimpering poodle of a thread out of the fortieth story window once and for all, I can exclusively reveal who was REALLY behind it all. Actually I'd better not. Ray "My indecision is final" ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk

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know know
by gene.c 09 Sep '03

09 Sep '03

know know children,keep it nice.lol.well i only been using this list for a week or so and i can see its quite hot.some dedicated fans and some peeps who have moved on in life but still like to stay in contact with whats going on.i consider myself the latter.used to love the klf,but there are more important things in life.i just wanna know whats happening in klfdom and read peeps views.

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