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A final ... dark ... question
by john MILNE 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

Hi, folks, Something to consider: Are the lyrics of "Go to Sleep" purely about that hazy post-club feeling, or something a good deal darker? "Mummy please, please Mummy, look at me. And then I hear - go to sleep." That's pretty much Kurt Cobain territory. I know some of the lyrics for "The Black Room" were meant to document Bill on the brink of breakdown (something he eventually fell into, with all that meat-in-the-post "Bible of Dreams" stuff) - but maybe even as far back as 1989 there were signs. Or maybe I've been listening to Joy Division too recently! What do people think? John

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Has anyone ever seen ...
by john MILNE 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

. an extremely early KLF vinyl record (1987 vintage) with a hand-drawn label? I think it's an "AYNIL" release. But I have JAMS23, JAMS23T and JAMS23s, and it's not on any of those. Any help would be appreciated, and not just by me! John PS - As an aside, does anyone remember a large book of discographies that came out a few years ago, that actually had the b-side to "All You Need is Love" (JAMS23) down as being "Baby, You're a Rich Man" (which is actually the b-side to the 1967 Beatles single)? These are the things that make me laugh at 23.37 on a Saturday night .

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Re: [KLF] "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR
by Maarten Bouwes 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

I bought the second one. Unfortunately, the registered moneyletter never made it to Torsten... I think it was stolen by the mail but can't prove that.... >From: Daniel Loos <Thous(a)gmx.de> >Reply-To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: "All bound for Mu-Mu Land." <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: Re: [KLF] "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:54:49 +0200 (MEST) > >I remember that a Thomas Pattberg (isnÂ´t he a member of KLF.de?) once >offered the normal remix of "Kylie" (incl. Trance Kylie Express) and the >special >Remix (KLF010RR) in two seperate auctions via ebay.com. He had buy-it-now >options of both of them. The first was $20, the second $100. I decided $20 >was >good for the normal remix but I didnÂ´t have the money for the other one. >There >were pictures included in the auction. And I remember KLF10RR had the >standard KLF Communications cover while the labels were plain white. > >Daniel Loos > > >-- >+++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ > >Jetzt ein- oder umsteigen und USB-Speicheruhr als PrÃ¤mie sichern! > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl

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"Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR
by john MILNE 13 Jul '03

13 Jul '03

Here's one that'll hopefully move us away from "Love Boat" and on to something we can actually prove! ;-)_ Does anyone on the list have a copy of KLF010RR? I've never seen a scan of the cover, but I gather it came as double pack with KLF010R - and the tracks are officially untitled. I've never seen it on e-bay, and very little mention of it in discussions or on other websites. Basically, if some lucky person has it, can they possible give me as much info as they can (sleeve, appearance, run out groove writing, smell, even - god forbid - what it sounds like). I'm sure I have the tracks on bootleg somewhere, but with so many (frankly similar) songs kicking around with "Kylie" and "Trance" in their title, it's difficult to know which is which! John PS - For what it's worth, I suspect "Love Trance" is genuine, but probably a demo. Or maybe even some collaboration between Rockman, Kingboy, LXD and Youth - it does have a certain "Eternity Project One" quality about it.

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trainspotting questions
by Johan Jaatinen 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Hi, While we're so much into details, here are another two trainspotting questions. :-) 1. Has anyone else than me noticed that the version of WTIL (live@tc) that appears in the "DMC minimix" (available on a DJ promo 12" and on some of the white room demo tapes (I have the latter)) is a completely unreleased one? It has a different bassline (during MC Bello's rap) than the common live@tc version, and there are some other samples too which are not on the released version - though the extra samples can have been put there by the mixers of course. But the bassline? (Also, the DMC minimix also contains "The White Room", which is not mentioned in the discography.) 2. Has anyone else than me noticed that the track "KLF slo[w] the beats" which appears on "Demos vol. 2" and (part of it) on "Arkive 1" (or was it 2?) is slightly different on these two releases? The version on the demo tape is not at all as "slowed down" than the version on Arkive, it sounds more like "Borrowed love", but with a different intro. There are other differences than the speed as well, I think. (Unfortunately, I don't have the track 6:01 on Eternity project one to compare with at the moment, which should also be the same track.) /Johan.

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RE: [KLF] RE: "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR
by Maarten Bouwes 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

got it >From: "Chris Peel" <munkie(a)cloud9ine.com> >Reply-To: munkie(a)cloud9ine.com, "All bound for Mu-Mu >Land."<klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >To: "'All bound for Mu-Mu Land.'" <klf(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: RE: [KLF] RE: "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR >Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 19:41:55 +0100 > > >Anyone seen/got a copy of the purple vinyl KLF 010 7"? > >Chris > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: klf-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > > [mailto:klf-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tony Stuart > > Sent: 12 July 2003 18:23 > > To: klf(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Subject: [KLF] RE: "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR > > > > > > >I have one and If I remember correctly it came in one of those > > generic KLF 12" sleeves. I'll check when I get home. > > > > my copy is in a generic sleeve > > > > t > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________________ > > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >CareerBuilder.com has over 400,000 jobs. Be smarter about your job >search http://corp.mail.com/careers > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf > > > >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl

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Re: trainspotting questions
by john MILNE 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Hi Johan, The DMC Mini-mix contains at least one sample from one of those Ray Harryhausen movies - you know, "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" and all that - or so I've been told. I presume this is the pterodactyl which bizarrely appears just after the orchestra tune up. Presumably the bassline was put there by Brian Butler (the remixer). He also put together another megamix in 1989 (called "DMC: House '89") which included "WTIL (Pure Trance)" - although I've never heard that one. Its 1988 equivalent is on e-bay at the moment, though. Oh, and the "May 1991" 12" sleeve does mention "The White Room". It's just Lazlo's discography which doesn't. As far as all the KLF demos are concerned, I have the EP1 CD (where "KLF Slo the Beats" is actually called "The Orb 6:01"). I also have the MP3 Kollections CDs (4 altogether). One of the files on there is marked "demos" - but I can't find it at the moment! There are, I think, 4 demo tracks altogether, but I can't remember which is which. Sorry. Maybe somebody else can illuminate? John

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RE: RE: "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR
by klf-communications＠arcor.de 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

i have a copy http://home.arcor.de/klf-communications/982.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Peel munkie at cloud9ine.com Sat Jul 12 20:41:55 MDT 2003 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone seen/got a copy of the purple vinyl KLF 010 7"? Chris

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Re: "Kylie Said to Jason" KLF010RR
by john MILNE 12 Jul '03

12 Jul '03

Hi! And thanks everyone for the info. I must admit, I listened to all the remixes last night, and they're not as similar to one another as I had thought before! Incidentally, I might be wrong in this, but isn't the mp3 known as "Kylie Said Mu" just a badly recorded copy of "Kylie Said Trance" (in whatever variation) with the bass turned up? What I mean is a track called "Kylie Said Mu" doesn't appear on KLF010T, R, RR or the MG Underground Sound 12", does it? John

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Re: [KLF] RE: Love trash (was:"Oohs", "wahhs", "muuus" and all that)
by Maarten Bouwes 11 Jul '03

11 Jul '03

Alex Patterson often wondered why the first Cydonia versions were bootlegged before being distributed officially. The only thing Alex could think of was that someone from "inside" made these early versions available. His right hand slipped these demo's out since he had acces to the masters. The Monster Attack Mix has been pressed upto 3. The discog states that both B&J and Youth got one. </speculation on> Due to "public demand", it was released but not by B&J, since they've never had the intention releasing this track on forehand. Remains Youth as the 3rd one who ownes a copy. Maybe he was the one. </speculation off > Regarding Love Trance: If you're listening at 3 am and wtil,you'll be struck by the fact that it's a *totally* different track. It contains a line sung by a woman. Now that's a rather uncommon thing for those pure trance releases, isn't it? Could be a fan made mix, which I doubt by the way. *Or* Youth made it and featured as the b-side mix for PT3, The vinyl is heavy with round edges. The same as KLF010R; +/-180 gr I think. Boots are often more flexi and haven't got those round edges. Am not doubting the authenticity of the record ansich since it was pressed by adrenalin. Same handwriting etc. The reasons why I am doubting about it's authenticity are the following: First of all, I am the proud? owner of the A and B side labels of PT3. John is the owner of the PT4 labels (the yellow ones) Usually, labels are made to be stuck on records, not for selling seperately. Same goes for the sleeves. Moreover, Jimmy is clear in his interviews at brandnew.co.uk stating the PT3 never been recorded/pressed due to the acid thing. They scrapped the whole sessions. The only surviving record then was 008R. The only ones who could clearify this, are, ofcourse, the mystical duo themselfs, who probabely won't give a flying fcuk about this whole discussion anyways... M > > Love Trance/Love Trash >whateveryouwannacallitandpayforanafterhourpressing. > > > Ofcourse it's a genuine item. How can I be so blind not seeing this!? > >Sarcasm aside, I too feel it's genuine, based on the clarity of the b-side, >the Monster Attack mix of WTIL. > >Too have included that track, which, according to the discog, was only >pressed on 3 discs but we'll say it's slightly higher, you would need to >have one of >the following: > >- an original pressing with Monster on it >- One of the two bootleg compilations containing it (WROST and Arkive 1) >- Master tapes >. > >The sound quality of Miles pressing of Monster far surpasses the quality of >both the bootleg version so they are clearly ruled out. > >So, the bootlegger must have had their own copy of Monster, or it's >genuine. >Chances are that the bootleger/manufacturer had a copy of this pressing, >plus >a set of labels and sleeves narrows down that option considerably. But >there >is still that chance. > >Given the facts, which is more likely? (not that facts matter to some >here) > >-paul >_______________________________________________ >KLF mailing list >KLF(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/klf _________________________________________________________________ MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl

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