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Hello out there
by John F. Sachse 22 Jul '05

22 Jul '05

Nothing of consequence to say other than that I'm halfway through TotN. Basically sending this out as a test. John

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by glencook＠dougbishop.com 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

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Re: [Glencook-fans] Spoilers for the Tyranny of the Night
by Grim213＠aol.com 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

i also had suspected Sicily, and for a brief moment, Cyprus, but the references to the size of the place and the ruined, "Cathage"-like city made me wonder if Cook didn't rearrange things a bit on the North African coast.

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Re: [Glencook-fans] Spoilers for the Tyranny of the Night
by Grim213＠aol.com 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

I totally agree with the Mother Sea mirroring our Mediterranean. The only place I'm having a hard time pinning down is this huge island of Shippen. Perhaps it a big piece broken off of North Africa. The references to the reduced city of Caltium Cidanta (p329) sound suspiciously like Carthage, located in modern-day Tunisia, and there are references to an important Strait nearby (strait of Gibraltar?) Anyway, Dreanger is pretty clearly a version of Egypt, with its dynasties, ruins, Upper and Lower Kingdoms, etc, which would make Ambonypsba (home of that great coffee!) Ethiopia. And Suriet is obviously Judea, home of the Jews (er...Deves).

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Re: glencook-fans Digest, Vol 1, Issue 1
by harrissg 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

Hi, all, What a surfpise--I write to the list just one day after Steve(?) does also, so it's being resurrected from multiple directions at once :) I'm still on vacation and about a week and a half behind in reading my email; it's going to be a while before I read more than the first digest of the new list. "Whispering Nickel Idols": As usual with Garrett novels, I read this very quickly. I agree it's an improvement over "Angry Lead Skies", which I saw as the weakest in the series. Once again, Cook has managed to include just about all the new female characters introduced in all the preceding ones: The ratgirl Sular Pinge is a major character in this one and shows every sign of developing more in the future, while the pixies from some book back are now established minor characterers as well. It doesn't have a Major New Twist like some few of the series have had; I'd rank it as about average. Off hand comment: The strange weather mentioned--an ice storm that coats everything and is followed by several inches of snow, making travel very hazardous--is an accurate depiction of a winter about 5 years ago here in St. Louis. "Tyrany of the Night": I'm about 2/3 of the way through this. Yes, a lot like Dread Empire in that it's main focus is political intrigue. But it is much more realistic in that there is no super-character in the Bragi mold or clown-character in the Mocker mold. All the people are highly believable. It's almost as if he decided to go back to the Dread Empire type of story-telling, but decided to do it right this time. (Yes, I like Bragi and Mocker, too; no, they're not believable.) One thing that's annoying is his penchant for sentence fragments. Like this. And also like this. The geopolitical map is difficult to understand because there is such a proliferation of empires, kingdoms, principalities, regions, and city-states, and it seems to be important to know which neighbors one which (and which includes which), but he doesn't provide a map or give any succinct description. I'm planning on rereading it again immediately with an eye towards taking notes so as to be able to get as clear a picture as I can. (Or maybe I should just call up Glen and ask if he has a map he'd be willing to share?) This being the first book of a trilogy, it would be Really Nice to have a sounder understanding of the geographical relationships for the forthcoming books. Oh, yes: It's entrancing reading. MINOR SPOILER WARNING . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The fantasy elements are unusual in this respect: Generally speaking, I'd say there are two basic types of fantasy novels: Those where the fantasy elements dominate the nature of events in the world, and those in which the fantasy elements are a minor fillip. Generally Cook is the first category: In the Black Company, although we see a lot of Really Neat magic being wielded, its effect on the world is around the margins, except when things come to a climax in the South of the world. That's basically the case in this novel as well: The Instrumentalities of the Night are about as serious as wolves--something you have to watch out for, but not anything that affects the course of civilization (that we see, anyway). But there's a huge departure from that norm that forms a crucial plot element: A few of the gods have decided to take a very active hand in the mundane world. I have a suspicion that this is the crucial element upon which the entire series may be built: The reason Cook is telling a story from this particular moment in his world is not only the baroque politics coming to a fore, but also a dramtic change in the way in which the fantastic impacts the mundane. Steve/Stacey

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Late start
by Troy & Sue Lefman 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

I'm back on the list after a late restart. I won't go into details about the new books since I'm about a week late :-). I have the new Garrett novel but will have to wait for paperback on 'The Tyranny of the Night'.

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new glen cook books
by Adam Lachapelle {82264} 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

that's fantastic news about nickel & tyranny! no sooner do i ask than i get not one but TWO new 'cook' books. :) thanks for the info. :) -adam

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Re: [Glencook-fans] back on the list
by Pat Hannum 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

I thank you also Richard, I've missed this group, just thought it had died.... Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Childs Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 12:16 PM To: glencook-fans(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: [Glencook-fans] back on the list Richard, Thanks for your help. I am now back on the list.

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back on the list
by Lee Childs 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

Richard, Thanks for your help. I am now back on the list. Now that the new Glen Cook trilogy is (I believe done) and the Garrett novel in print, I am expecting Glen Cook to start work on a new Black Company book. Lee Childs

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Re: Re: [Glencook-fans] butcher
by maserati＠speakeasy.net 09 Jun '05

09 Jun '05

> -----Original Message----- > From: ljenab(a)sunflower.com [mailto:ljenab@sunflower.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2005 10:09 PM > To: 'Glen Cook: Science Fiction/Fantasy Author' > Subject: re: Re: [Glencook-fans] butcher > > I think he meant news on "Butcher" specifically. Anybody heard anything? If nobody (no publisher) picks it up, I say somebody drives to Glen's house and photocopies the manuscript. > Silly me, was Butcher suppsosed to be a Dread Empire novel or for an independant series ? If the latter, I think it was turned into tyranny, otherwise a commando raid on Glenn's desk is in order.

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