I'm able 2 calc Albrecht's The_Miracle w the comments in; Dev. Q.
I'm able to calculate Albrecht Niekamp's: "The_Miracle" (that uses Multifractal_10) with all the comments in it in the form he posted it on the [Fractint] list serve Oct 23, 2012 -- in VESA video mode 640 x 480 with DOS Fractint v 20.04.4 under WinXP SP3. The video chip built into the system board of my computer only supports VESA video mode: 640 x 480, and the DOS environment for Fractint is able to allow the calculation of his fractal using that video mode. However, when I try to use the 640 x 480 (or 4k x 3k) Disk Video modes, I get: "Insufficient memory to run fractal type 'formula'" Invoking Disk Video mode apparently allocates some additional memory that "breaks the camel's back" -- despite using the hard drive to write the image to. The version of Multifractal_10 *without* comments has this same problem. Here's Albrecht's "The Miracle" at 640 X 480: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/T_MIRACL.GIF and a zoom into it: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/T_MIRAC2.GIF Question: Any of the developers have any idea of how to get around the Disk Video modes not leaving enough memory for multifractalll-10 to run? Any debug modes lurking around that might help -- say, specifying the allocation of smaller Disk Video buffers? - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane@earthlink.net ########################
Hi, the zoom ypu posted is exactly the same one I have on my machine, still trying to figure out a name, "Alien Insect"?, only it is upside down. If requested I will put a par of the insect on the list. -- Why dont you think about getting an NVidia Geforce, I´ve had 4 of them and they all have full Vesa mode. On another computer is an ancient Geforce 6800, which functions fabulously, even with bootable dos. Albrecht Here's Albrecht's "The Miracle" at 640 X 480: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/T_MIRACL.GIF and a zoom into it: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/T_MIRAC2.GIF Question: Any of the developers have any idea of how to get around the Disk Video modes not leaving enough memory for multifractalll-10 to run? Any debug modes lurking around that might help -- say, specifying the allocation of smaller Disk Video buffers? - Hal Lane ######################## # hallane@earthlink.net ##################
Hi Tim, hope you´re listening. On my recent postings I did not get a single response, although I really tried to animate. They were good and creative images, if I may say so and Paul and Hal helped making them available for public viewing. Can you check with the server how many visits there are daily on the average and how many of them are by registered members of the forum? Most servers have these data available. In addidtion: how many registered members are there today? Thank you! Albrecht
On 10/23/2012 10:28 AM, Hal Lane wrote:
I'm able to calculate Albrecht Niekamp's: "The_Miracle" (that uses Multifractal_10) with all the comments in it in the form he posted it on the [Fractint] list serve Oct 23, 2012 -- in VESA video mode 640 x 480 with DOS Fractint v 20.04.4 under WinXP SP3.
The video chip built into the system board of my computer only supports VESA video mode: 640 x 480, and the DOS environment for Fractint is able to allow the calculation of his fractal using that video mode.
However, when I try to use the 640 x 480 (or 4k x 3k) Disk Video modes, I get:
"Insufficient memory to run fractal type 'formula'"
Invoking Disk Video mode apparently allocates some additional memory that "breaks the camel's back" -- despite using the hard drive to write the image to. The version of Multifractal_10 *without* comments has this same problem.
Here's Albrecht's "The Miracle" at 640 X 480: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/T_MIRACL.GIF and a zoom into it: http://www.emarketingiseasy.com/TESTS/FOTD/T_MIRAC2.GIF
Question: Any of the developers have any idea of how to get around the Disk Video modes not leaving enough memory for multifractalll-10 to run?
Any debug modes lurking around that might help -- say, specifying the allocation of smaller Disk Video buffers?
Hmmm, IIRC, isn't there a command line option that tells Fractint to use extended memory? IIRC, Windows provides the standard extended memory API hooks to DOS programs, so that might be enough for calculating a disk video image? I wonder how the multi_fractal formula would fair under XFractint (the Linux port of Fractint)? Or the Windows port of Fractint - what was it called? I use XFractint here, should see if the formula works there ... -- David gnome@hawaii.rr.com authenticity, honesty, community http://clanjones.org/david/ http://dancing-treefrog.deviantart.com/
Hi David, transferring multifractal to linux sounds like a good idea. You avoid the DOS limitations and the games windows plays with you, if you want to run a DOS program. The windows versions all lack high resolution, which is an absolute must. Please use the readable input instructions which Hal has reawakened some days ago, oct 22nd, second posting.They are a lot easier to understand. Of course I´ll be of help too, although some meditating maybe necessary to recall the complete program structure. I was in some kind of trance writing it and having finished didn´t realize immediately what I had accomplished. I´ll keep my fingers crossed. Albrecht qte:
Hmmm, IIRC, isn't there a command line option that tells Fractint to use extended memory? IIRC, Windows provides the standard extended memory API hooks to DOS programs, so that might be enough for calculating a disk video image?
I wonder how the multi_fractal formula would fair under XFractint (the Linux port of Fractint)? Or the Windows port of Fractint - what was it called?
I use XFractint here, should see if the formula works there ...
I thought this was interesting. Some guy in Japan constructed a computer to zoom into the Mandelbrot in real time. http://hackaday.com/2012/10/23/exploring-the-mandelbrot-set-in-real-time/ Nick
Hi, here are 3 zooms into yesterday´s image. Attached is an update to Inputs.txt. This is my last posting to the list, due to lack of interest or just because the number of active members has become so small. The result is the same. Albrecht ---------------------------------------start par-------------------------- 1536143b { ; Ritual Gear ; Zoom into 1536143a ; Time 0.22.49 DOS Shell 1600/1200 ; mandel-secant-bees-phoenix-julia ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 11 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_10.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=sin/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.71016733426941010/-0.078514738672469\ 15/1091.912/1/74.9999999999988631/8.27331259056762\ 747e-013 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/213\ 64.64595712822/14235.4911030602/152048.0404808048/\ 384.1604894048/384.00482000595/256.1007683001/512.\ 1007683001/768.1007683001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 colors=000000zr0zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>Mb8<3>L\ Q8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF<3>\ qeBriAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<4>zj4zg4zc4<3>zS5zP5zL6zI\ 6zE6wE6tD6<6>vAIv9Kv9M<3>x7Sy7Uy6Wz6Yz5_<3>f5Ma5IW\ 4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805G0BO0G<3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>\ y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3>c5eZ6`U6X<2>F9LAA\ G7FO4KW0Qc<3>5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<3>FcgHciJbl<3>S_v<\ 3>civflvinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovzhsw<3>Gch8_d8Xa\ <3>8JP8FL8CI<3>SCCXCAaB9<3>uA2zA0xA0<12>SA1QA1NA1<\ 3>D92<6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI<3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJo\ SFlWAi_5fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0zj0 } 1536143d { ; Ornaments ; Zoom into 1536143b ; Time 0.25.37 DOS Shell 1600/1200 ; mandel-secant-bees-phoenix-julia ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 11 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_10.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=sin/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.71012896882282740/-0.078504458682040\ 03/21838.24/1/75.0000000000001847/-1.0075613954274\ 5871e-011 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/213\ 64.64595712822/14235.4911030602/152048.0404808048/\ 384.1604894048/384.00482000595/256.1007683001/512.\ 1007683001/768.1007683001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 colors=000000zr0zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>Mb8<3>L\ Q8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF<3>\ qeBriAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<4>zj4zg4zc4<3>zS5zP5zL6zI\ 6zE6wE6tD6<6>vAIv9Kv9M<3>x7Sy7Uy6Wz6Yz5_<3>f5Ma5IW\ 4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805G0BO0G<3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>\ y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3>c5eZ6`U6X<2>F9LAA\ G7FO4KW0Qc<3>5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<3>FcgHciJbl<3>S_v<\ 3>civflvinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovzhsw<3>Gch8_d8Xa\ <3>8JP8FL8CI<3>SCCXCAaB9<3>uA2zA0xA0<12>SA1QA1NA1<\ 3>D92<6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI<3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJo\ SFlWAi_5fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0zj0 } 1536143c { ; Playground ; Zoom into 1536143b ; Time 0.29.52 DOS Shell 1600/1200 ; Fractint Version 2004 Patchlevel 11 reset=2004 type=formula formulafile=mfr_10.frm formulaname=multifractal_10 function=sin/exp/exp/sin passes=t center-mag=-0.70943787030482360/-0.078332525529522\ 47/253933/1/74.9999999995186215/5.2023735319650654\ 7e-010 params=-0.05825983458967864/0.3785210730307932/213\ 64.64595712822/14235.4911030602/152048.0404808048/\ 384.1604894048/384.00482000595/256.1007683001/512.\ 1007683001/768.1007683001 float=y maxiter=3071 inside=maxiter outside=tdis periodicity=0 rseed=-2436 colors=000000zr0zz1zzC<2>zzz<3>jqdfo_blU<3>Mb8<3>L\ Q8KM8KJ8<2>I88H44G00<3>TA5WD6ZF7aI8eLAhMBiODjQF<3>\ qeBriAtm9vq8xu7zz5zz4zz3<4>zj4zg4zc4<3>zS5zP5zL6zI\ 6zE6wE6tD6<6>vAIv9Kv9M<3>x7Sy7Uy6Wz6Yz5_<3>f5Ma5IW\ 4E<2>_4H<3>P3DN2CK2A<3>805G0BO0G<3>g0Ul0Xq0`v0d<2>\ y0fz0gy0h<3>u1mt1ns1or2q<2>v2u<3>c5eZ6`U6X<2>F9LAA\ G7FO4KW0Qc<3>5Xc6Zc7`c7aa7c_7eY<3>FcgHciJbl<3>S_v<\ 3>civflvinvlqvotvsww<2>zzz<3>rwzovzhsw<3>Gch8_d8Xa\ <3>8JP8FL8CI<3>SCCXCAaB9<3>uA2zA0xA0<12>SA1QA1NA1<\ 3>D92<6>UXAW`BYcC<3>hrI<3>UnXRm_NlcJkgFfpAaz<3>PJo\ SFlWAi_5fc0ce7_jFRoNIzb0zj0 } ----------------------------------------------------end------------------------------------------------
Nick Grasso wrote:
I thought this was interesting. Some guy in Japan constructed a computer to zoom into the Mandelbrot in real time.
Yes, it was an interesting article, including the various replies at the end by other people (with references to other interesting web pages). Also noticed that one individual replied with a brief note about FractInt. So I had to add my reply to his reply. :-) Later, P.N.L. -------------------------------------- http://www.Nahee.com/PNL/Fractals.html http://www.Nahee.com/Fractals/
Hal,
However, when I try to use the 640 x 480 (or 4k x 3k) Disk Video modes, I get:
"Insufficient memory to run fractal type 'formula'"
Invoking Disk Video mode apparently allocates some additional memory that "breaks the camel's back" -- despite using the hard drive to write the image to. The version of Multifractal_10 *without* comments has this same problem.
Question: Any of the developers have any idea of how to get around the Disk Video modes not leaving enough memory for multifractalll-10 to run?
Any debug modes lurking around that might help -- say, specifying the allocation of smaller Disk Video buffers?
Try using debug=4200. This works on my system. The problem is that disk video modes (using any memory type) need to allocate far memory for the disk cache, which takes it away from use by the formula parser. Jonathan
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