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Re: [Fractint] No FOTD for a few days
by gnome＠hawaii.rr.com 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Muth <jamth(a)mindspring.com> Date: Monday, June 21, 2004 6:20 am Subject: Re: [Fractint] No FOTD for a few days > At 07:11 PM on 6/18/04, David Jones wrote: > > >And some day such work will fund the provision > >of a much faster Fractal generating box, to > >speed your FOTD searches! > > It's noon of Monday, June 21, and things are > still hectic here at F.C. The FOTD delay is > not due to a slow machine. I have four fast > computers. The problem is that when the work > gets as heavy as it is now, I am busy up to 16 > hours a day, and lack the time to even boot up > Fractint, much less search for interesting > fractals and write the discussion. Right now, > it looks like I'll be caught-up around Thursday, > and the next FOTD will appear then, but that is > no promise. Oh, I wasn't thinking of that, I was thinking more in terms of rendering times. I noticed some lengthy rendering times in some of your discussions, and figured that you probably weren't devoting your fast machines to Fractint. Of course, is Fractint dwelling on its own machine? If so, you could just leave it up all the time and do fractal stuff more frequently ... > Jim M. > > P.S. The fractal cats are doing well. I'm not sure but that our two cats aren't also fractal. They're four years apart in age, the older one weighs roughly twice that of the younger, both are black and arrived in completely random ways (one found in our local shopping center's parking lot, one found at my daughter's high school library's parking lot) ... and as they've iterated through the years, they're getting more and more self-similar ... David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com

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Re: [Fractint] No FOTD for a few days
by Jim Muth 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

At 07:11 PM on 6/18/04, David Jones wrote: >And some day such work will fund the provision >of a much faster Fractal generating box, to >speed your FOTD searches! It's noon of Monday, June 21, and things are still hectic here at F.C. The FOTD delay is not due to a slow machine. I have four fast computers. The problem is that when the work gets as heavy as it is now, I am busy up to 16 hours a day, and lack the time to even boot up Fractint, much less search for interesting fractals and write the discussion. Right now, it looks like I'll be caught-up around Thursday, and the next FOTD will appear then, but that is no promise. Jim M. P.S. The fractal cats are doing well.

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Fractint version 20.03 patch 2 now available
by Jonathan Osuch 21 Jun '04

21 Jun '04

Fractint version 20.03 patch 2 is now available at www.fractint.org. What's new: Fixed the inability to reload a PAR created from an arbitrary precision fractal with a large magnification. Fixed the problem with a left mouse click not bringing up the zoom box after an image is completed. Incorporated Gerald Dobiasovsky's fix for the julibrot type when used with quat and hypercomplex. Fixed the display of subdirectories in Xfractint. Replaced control characters in realdos.c with the equivalent ascii values to quiet complaints by CVS. Jonathan

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No FOTD for a few days
by Jim Muth 19 Jun '04

19 Jun '04

Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: Due to an unexpected large job that has arrived, I will be unable to post the FOTD for the next few days. I will resume the daily fractals as soon as I put the work behind me. Hopefully this will be around the middle of the coming week. In the meantime I will continue reading the lists. Until the fractals re-appear, take care, and do not be concerned. Fractals will be with us always. Jim M.

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Re: [Fractint] FOTD 17-06-04 (Spirit Murmur [6])
by gnome＠hawaii.rr.com 19 Jun '04

19 Jun '04

When I go to the Spirit Murmur page, only about a third of the image comes down ... Then the browser says done. 8-( David gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Muth <jamth(a)mindspring.com> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2004 5:21 am Subject: [Fractint] FOTD 17-06-04 (Spirit Murmur [6]) > > FOTD -- June 17, 2004 (Rating 6) > > Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: > > I see that the idea of the Fractint CD is still floating around, > along with suggestions of what such a disk might contain. Some- > one, I forget who, has suggested that the Fractint CD might > include the 7-year series of FOTD parameter files. This seems > like a good idea, since my own FOTD-CD has been bogged down for > several years. The FOTD parameter files, along with the discus- > sions, take up about 8-1/2 mb of disk space in text format, and > I would be willing to include them on the disk at no charge, as > long as the disk were distributed at no cost. I have long since > realized and accepted that there would be no financial profit in > such a disk. > > To find today's fractal scene I ventured into the Seahorse > Valley area of the Z^(2+0.2i) Mandeloid. Perhaps I should call > it the Seahorse Mesa area, for the north branch of the valley > has broadened into a plateau almost as wide as the main bud. > > This is a 'new' area, not part of the standard M-set, and 'new' > areas contain new material. The scene illustrated in today's > image is certainly new, having never before been seen by human > (or alien) eyes. Of course, if an infinity of infinite parallel > universes exist, today's image has been seen an infinite number > of times. > > I named the image "Spirit Murmur". The name has no connection > to the image, I simply like the poetic sound of the name. The > rating of a 6 appears fair. The render time of just under 9 > minutes gives an overall value of 68, which is not too bad. The > best way to see the image is to download it from Paul's FOTD web > site at: > > <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> > > It is once again quiet here at Fractal Central. The constant > din of the cicadas is gone. True, an occasional male still > sings a lonely song, hidden is some bush or tree, but even these > stragglers will soon be gone, leaving only the discarded shells > and empty holes as a reminder that they were ever here. The > cats seem totally unconcerned. > > Heavy clouds, very high humidity, a temperature of 86F 30C and > occasional showers made Wednesday quite oppressive here at > Fractal Central. But it was oppressive only for people. The > fractal cats enjoyed the conditions, and despite the wet grass, > found time for a satisfying romp (AKA rest) in the yard. When > the heaviest shower of the day drove them indoors at 6pm, they > were ready to settle for the evening without a treat of tuna. > Today is starting the same. It looks like a repeat for the duo. > > For me, it looks like another very busy day. (Isn't success > wonderful.) Until the next FOTD, which hopefully will arrive > tomorrow, take care, and when searching for truth, be sure of > how it will be recognized when it is found. > > > Jim Muth > jamth(a)mindspring.com > jimmuth(a)aol.com > > > START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ > > Spirit_Murmur { ; time=0:08:52.23--SF5 on a P200 > reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm > formulaname=MandelbrotBC2 passes=1 > center-mag=-4.514094221782175/+2.05908763207\ > 5082/2.712345e+009 params=2/0.2/-2/0 float=y > maxiter=4200 inside=0 logmap=244 periodicity=10 > colors=000S6MV5KV5IY6LX6N`6WZ7S_7V`7Xa8_U8aZ8d`9cd\ > 9if9ke9mgDliGkkJjlNinQhpTgrXfs_eubdwfcyibzlarg_jbZ\ > cYYWTXOOWHKVIMUINTIOSIQRJRQJSPJUOJVNJWMMYOP_QRaRUc\ > TXeUZgWaiYdjZfl`inalpcnreqtftvhvwiquemsbiq_epXanUY\ > lRUkOQiLMgIIeFEdCAb96`62_34Z56Z68Z7AZ8CZ9EZAFYCHYD\ > JYELYFNYGPYHQYIdJYs4ml3oe3pZ2qS2sL1tF1uPKcZaNefTkk\ > Zrpdxuixvfxvcxv`xvYxwWxwTxwQxwNxwKxxIxxFxxCxx9xx7d\ > oEMgL3_R7aQAcPDePHgOKhONjNRlNUnMXpM`qLcsLfuKjwKmyJ\ > pzJlvQhsWdpa`lhXinTftPczMbtKboIajGaeD``B`W9_R7_M5_\ > HCZDJZ9QY5WY2Z_2``2ba2eb2gd2ie2lf2ng2ph2diKUjaJkrv\ > lbsm_qnXnoUlqRisPgtMduJbvG_wEYxBVy8Tz5Rz3Ny2Jy1Fy0\ > Cy0Et4zp8zkCzgGzbKzZOzUSzQWzO_zRczUgzXgz_gzbgzegzh\ > gzkdznbzq`ztZzwWzzUzzSzzQzzNzzLzzJzzHzzKzzMzzOzzRz\ > zTzzVzzYzz_zzazzdzzfzzhzzkzzmzzozzqzzBzzAzz9zzCzzF\ > zzHzzKzzMzzPzzRzzUzzXzzZzzazzczzfzzhzzkzzmzzhzzczz\ > _zzVzzQzzMzzHzzDzzUzzRzzP } > > frm:MandelbrotBC2 { ; by several Fractint users > e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100 > p=real(p2)+PI > q=2*PI*floor(p/(2*PI)) > r=real(p2)-q > Z=C=Pixel: > Z=log(Z) > IF(imag(Z)>r) > Z=Z+flip(2*PI) > ENDIF > Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C > |Z| > END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================== > > > _______________________________________________ > Fractint mailing list > Fractint(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fractint >

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XP and Fractint
by Jonathan Osuch 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Here is something to try with XP that works on my system: During windows startup press <F8> to bring up the menu selections. Select "Safe Mode with Command Prompt". Change (cd) to your Fractint directory and run Fractint. When done, exit Fractint and type logoff to return to the logon prompt. You will need to restart the computer from here to get back to the normal XP environment. Jonathan

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FOTD 17-06-04 (Spirit Murmur [6])
by Jim Muth 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

FOTD -- June 17, 2004 (Rating 6) Fractal visionaries and enthusiasts: I see that the idea of the Fractint CD is still floating around, along with suggestions of what such a disk might contain. Some- one, I forget who, has suggested that the Fractint CD might include the 7-year series of FOTD parameter files. This seems like a good idea, since my own FOTD-CD has been bogged down for several years. The FOTD parameter files, along with the discus- sions, take up about 8-1/2 mb of disk space in text format, and I would be willing to include them on the disk at no charge, as long as the disk were distributed at no cost. I have long since realized and accepted that there would be no financial profit in such a disk. To find today's fractal scene I ventured into the Seahorse Valley area of the Z^(2+0.2i) Mandeloid. Perhaps I should call it the Seahorse Mesa area, for the north branch of the valley has broadened into a plateau almost as wide as the main bud. This is a 'new' area, not part of the standard M-set, and 'new' areas contain new material. The scene illustrated in today's image is certainly new, having never before been seen by human (or alien) eyes. Of course, if an infinity of infinite parallel universes exist, today's image has been seen an infinite number of times. I named the image "Spirit Murmur". The name has no connection to the image, I simply like the poetic sound of the name. The rating of a 6 appears fair. The render time of just under 9 minutes gives an overall value of 68, which is not too bad. The best way to see the image is to download it from Paul's FOTD web site at: <http://home.att.net/~Paul.N.Lee/FotD/FotD.html> It is once again quiet here at Fractal Central. The constant din of the cicadas is gone. True, an occasional male still sings a lonely song, hidden is some bush or tree, but even these stragglers will soon be gone, leaving only the discarded shells and empty holes as a reminder that they were ever here. The cats seem totally unconcerned. Heavy clouds, very high humidity, a temperature of 86F 30C and occasional showers made Wednesday quite oppressive here at Fractal Central. But it was oppressive only for people. The fractal cats enjoyed the conditions, and despite the wet grass, found time for a satisfying romp (AKA rest) in the yard. When the heaviest shower of the day drove them indoors at 6pm, they were ready to settle for the evening without a treat of tuna. Today is starting the same. It looks like a repeat for the duo. For me, it looks like another very busy day. (Isn't success wonderful.) Until the next FOTD, which hopefully will arrive tomorrow, take care, and when searching for truth, be sure of how it will be recognized when it is found. Jim Muth jamth(a)mindspring.com jimmuth(a)aol.com START 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE================================ Spirit_Murmur { ; time=0:08:52.23--SF5 on a P200 reset=2003 type=formula formulafile=allinone.frm formulaname=MandelbrotBC2 passes=1 center-mag=-4.514094221782175/+2.05908763207\ 5082/2.712345e+009 params=2/0.2/-2/0 float=y maxiter=4200 inside=0 logmap=244 periodicity=10 colors=000S6MV5KV5IY6LX6N`6WZ7S_7V`7Xa8_U8aZ8d`9cd\ 9if9ke9mgDliGkkJjlNinQhpTgrXfs_eubdwfcyibzlarg_jbZ\ cYYWTXOOWHKVIMUINTIOSIQRJRQJSPJUOJVNJWMMYOP_QRaRUc\ TXeUZgWaiYdjZfl`inalpcnreqtftvhvwiquemsbiq_epXanUY\ lRUkOQiLMgIIeFEdCAb96`62_34Z56Z68Z7AZ8CZ9EZAFYCHYD\ JYELYFNYGPYHQYIdJYs4ml3oe3pZ2qS2sL1tF1uPKcZaNefTkk\ Zrpdxuixvfxvcxv`xvYxwWxwTxwQxwNxwKxxIxxFxxCxx9xx7d\ oEMgL3_R7aQAcPDePHgOKhONjNRlNUnMXpM`qLcsLfuKjwKmyJ\ pzJlvQhsWdpa`lhXinTftPczMbtKboIajGaeD``B`W9_R7_M5_\ HCZDJZ9QY5WY2Z_2``2ba2eb2gd2ie2lf2ng2ph2diKUjaJkrv\ lbsm_qnXnoUlqRisPgtMduJbvG_wEYxBVy8Tz5Rz3Ny2Jy1Fy0\ Cy0Et4zp8zkCzgGzbKzZOzUSzQWzO_zRczUgzXgz_gzbgzegzh\ gzkdznbzq`ztZzwWzzUzzSzzQzzNzzLzzJzzHzzKzzMzzOzzRz\ zTzzVzzYzz_zzazzdzzfzzhzzkzzmzzozzqzzBzzAzz9zzCzzF\ zzHzzKzzMzzPzzRzzUzzXzzZzzazzczzfzzhzzkzzmzzhzzczz\ _zzVzzQzzMzzHzzDzzUzzRzzP } frm:MandelbrotBC2 { ; by several Fractint users e=p1, a=imag(p2)+100 p=real(p2)+PI q=2*PI*floor(p/(2*PI)) r=real(p2)-q Z=C=Pixel: Z=log(Z) IF(imag(Z)>r) Z=Z+flip(2*PI) ENDIF Z=exp(e*(Z+flip(q)))+C |Z|<a } END 20.0 PAR-FORMULA FILE==================================

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RE: [Fractint] Re: ChaosScope
by Franktal Gallery 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

I strongly recommend joining the chaoscope mailing list at http://www.freelists.org/archives/chaoscope , it's managed by Nicolas Desprez (chaoscope's author), and you can even post pictures (< 100K). -- As far as I know, what I have in my site is the Cantor Gasket.... I think the Menger cube it's quite a different animal. But I may be wrong. >>Nice pics in your gallery - I see the Menger Cube there, but I haven't >>been able to do it yet - gimme more time to figure it out. The 3d IFS parameters at the Fractint distribution kit are your friends (hint, hint) >>BTW, IMHO, Zappa sucks. Well, everybody's entitled to an opinion, and yours is wrong in this case ;-) >>But Rush Rulez! Indeed ! Thanks for checking out my site, and best regards Miguel http://www.geocities.com/franktal2002 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

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Fractal Creations
by Barry Smith 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

Thanks to David and Paul for their replies. David Jones <gnome(a)hawaii.rr.com> wrote: <I have been lurking on this list for years. <From July 1991 until August 1994 I wrote a monthly column called Â‘Frenzied FractalsÂ’ in the excellent magazine published by the local users group. Then I began a new busy job and was less than impressed when the editors often arbitrarily changed what I had written, dropped illustrations and failed to return some photos that I had paid good money for." Hmm, any possibility that your interesting-sounding column (even the old issues of it) could appear somewhere on the web? David It is nearly a decade since I stopped writing the column. The articles were written in WordStar, converted to plain text and copied to 5 Â¼ inch discs along with GIF files to be DTPÂ’d (This was over ten years ago). I have put a 5 Â¼ inch drive into my current PC and have copied hundreds of diskettes with old files to my hard disc, but canÂ’t find the ones for my articles now - There are about 500 more 5 Â¼ inch diskettes that IÂ’ve not looked at for years. It would probably be easier to scan the articles, but wonder if itÂ’s worth it. The first article was basically a brief description of what fractals are (with only a little maths) and why they are interesting, together with an enthusiastic account of the main features of Fractint. I e-mailed the text of the article to Tim to check (This was before the web or modern browsers had come on the scene; if I remember correctly I had just moved up from an acoustic coupler to a state of the art 2400 bps modem at vast expense.) Later articles mainly discussed further fractal types, including the fern and other ifs, L-systems, Lyapunov and so on. I canÂ’t imagine that I covered anything not in TimÂ’s book. Paul N. Lee <Paul.N.Lee(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote: <...I tried in vain to get a copy." He went on to say that several copies were available, both hardcover and paperback, from various brokers. On 6 Jan 1999 amazon.com wrote to say Â‘At this time, we have not yet located the item that you requested. Please rest assured that we will continue searching until you let us know that you would like us to discontinue our efforts. Â‘When a match is found, we will contact you by email to request your approval of the price of the item.Â’ I have not heard from them in the last 5 years, and assumed after Tim said that it was out of print that it was unavailable. I have a Gold Visa credit card (having cancelled my Diners, Amex, Bankcard and Mastercard) and will now revisit amazon.com. My concern was about private transactions - bank drafts are expensive. Thanks again for the replies. -------------------- Barry W Smith P O Box 442, Jamison Centre ACT 2614, Australia Tel. (Home & answering machine) (02) 6251 2119 International +61 2 6251 2119 e-mail: bsmith(a)cyberone.com.au

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Re: ChaosScope
by jackoftradez＠comcast.net 17 Jun '04

17 Jun '04

David (or Miguel) thanks for turning me on to ChaosScope! It is an Excellent program - I never knew about it! It is so user friendly I didn't even need the docs. The 3D rotation feature rocks - for the first time I can see what the Lorenz graph REALLY looks like. I knew sooner or later someone would beat my SAX program :( Nice pics in your gallery - I see the Menger Cube there, but I haven't been able to do it yet - gimme more time to figure it out. The Menger image on the web site makes for seriously cool wallpaper also. BTW, IMHO, Zappa sucks. But Rush Rulez! JoTz

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