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Duel
by Simon Daw 30 Jun '02

30 Jun '02

I've been listening in some detail to the different 7" copies of Duel that I own. According to the discography, ZTAS 8, PZTAS 8 and DUAL 1 all clock in at 4:07. My copies of PZTAS 8 and DUAL 1 clock in at 4:07, however, my copy of ZTAS 8 clocks in at 3:56, which is the timing the discography gives for the promo ZTAS 8 DJ. This is a slightly different mix of Duel, with more pronounced backing vocals and a short 'elephant noises' instrumental break. What I would like to know, is whether the correct timing for ZTAS 8 is 3:56 and the discography is wrong, or whether my copy of ZTAS 8 is a rarer version. Mine is in a standard picture sleeve with matrix numbers {ZTAS 8 A -2U-1-1-X 1} {ZTAS 8 B xx-1U-1-2-5} (the xx is two scratched out numbers/letters). Any thoughts? Simon

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new moments in love single?
by cdaraghy＠bestweb.net 30 Jun '02

30 Jun '02

i get updates from www.collectorsshop.com and it lists in their latest advert: ART OF NOISE-MOMENTS IN LOVE (LIMITED) 909772 Limited & numbered edition digipak features 4 tracks 'Moments In Love', 'Beatbox Diversion 10'(Another Moment...Do This And Don't Do That...), 'Moments In Love' (Beaten) & 'Moments In Love' (Original video). $14.00 Mighty curious. But why not load it up with remixes? Do they want it to chart again? I'm still perplexed over the "VISION" single. was it inteded to be a real release but didnt happen, or was it promo-cd only? was the commercial 12" easy to find? seems to have been. the cd single with the rob searle mix is not marked as a promo, but was not easy to find, at least for me.

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Propaganda DVD
by CobraBora 29 Jun '02

29 Jun '02

The UK version of Propaganda's Outside World is now available for ordering in the ZTT shop! https://vault1.secured-url.com/securespace/acatalog/ZTT_SHOP_NEW_RELEASES___ COLLECTABLE_STOCK_19.html CobraBora

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Re: [ZTT] About "outside World"
by Juan Lopez 25 Jun '02

25 Jun '02

>From: "Arnaud" <bonald(a)altern.org> >Just received the german release CD + DVD. > >I have not watched the DVD right now because I'm in my office, but I have >noticed some sound glitch during the intro of >Duel (Bitter Sweet) > >Did Repertoire Records even listened to the tracks before mastering the >CD?? The answer to that is probably no. Anyone who has been unlucky enough to pay import prices for their substandard tat can attest to that. I've been stupid enough to buy a couple of their rereleases and apart from the fact that the sleeve track listing and actual real running order have usually nothing in common, the 'mastering' would seem to be done on a Sinclair ZX80 by a five year old. And as far as artwork is concerned, you see better quality scans on most bootlegs. It's been very sad to watch a great and mythical catalogue be raped to death by a company like repertoire who obviously have neither interest in nor respect for the ZTT label. _________________________________________________________________ EnvÃe y reciba su correo de Hotmail desde el mÃ³vil: http://mobile.msn.com

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About "outside World"
by Arnaud 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Just received the german release CD + DVD. I have not watched the DVD right now because I'm in my office, but I have noticed some sound glitch during the intro of Duel (Bitter Sweet) Actually, it's during the first 30 seconds of the track. It sound more like a tape problem , not a problem related to my CD. Did anyone also noticed this? Did Repertoire Records even listened to the tracks before mastering the CD??

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Rolling Stones?!
by Ian Peel 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

On ZTT?! http://www.101cd.com/Music/info.asp?id=1319920&dept= -- Ian Peel http://www.ianpeel.com

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AW: [ZTT] Re: Outside World ! Release dates !
by Hirschberger Karl 13 Jun '02

13 Jun '02

"Extracts from Complete machinery? is the b-side of the p-machinery beta 12". It is a mix of all parts of the whole cassette including a huge part of frozen faces. "Connected" is 12 minutes pure machinery, without frozen faces! 12": 1985 UK (ZTT; 12 X ZTAS 12 {1U-1-1}) [ps "sofa"] 9:20 p:Machinery (beta) [B-side: "Extracts From The Cassette: Complete Machinery "] 0:24 Introduction 3:45 (diversion of) p:Machinery (passive) 4:26 Frozen Faces 1:15 p:Machinery (reprise) CSS: 1985 UK (ZTT; CTIS 12) [Complete Machinery] 0:24 Introduction 11:40 p:Machinery (connected) 0:10 p:Machinery (separation) 5:30 Frozen Faces (extended) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAYS BECOME YEARS, YEARS BECOME TEARS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: Propaganda.de(a)t-online.de Homepage: www.p-fan.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: ianpeel.com [mailto:ian@ianpeel.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. Juni 2002 00:42 An: ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com Betreff: [ZTT] Re: Outside World ! Release dates ! > On this CD is the remastered version > of the tape only track: p-machinery > (Connected) !!!!!!!!!!! > On the UK version is only the > track p-Machinery (Extracts from > Complete machinery) which is the b-side of the > p-Machinery 12" Vinyl !!!!!!!!!!! I might be having a dumb moment. I'm not sure. I haven't dug out and played my p:Machinery 12", but the "Extracts from Complete machinery" thats on the UK OW CD/DVD certainly sounds like the tape version to me, not the 12" version... It has the "perform... persist... etc." vocal thing at the beginning. It fades into Frozen Faces... So what exactly are the differences between "Connected" and "Extracts from Complete machinery?! -- Ian Peel http://www.ianpeel.com _______________________________________________ ZTT mailing list ZTT(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ztt

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AW: [ZTT] Re: ZTT digest, Vol 1 #40 - 1 msg
by Hirschberger Karl 12 Jun '02

12 Jun '02

Thats the wordfile behind the zip file (no virus inside) Order form WORLDWIDE My USED ITEMS which I have currently for sale: ¨ x CD M: - The secret tapes of Dr. Mabuse (SIGNED by ANDREAS and RALF, very limited, only 50 avail.) each disc 15$ (weight 75g) ¨ x CD M: - The secret tapes of Dr. Mabuse (UNSIGNED) each disc 15$ (weight 75g) ¨ x CD/DVD Propaganda - Outside world German release limited (2000 only pressed) with 7 track DVD, different tracklist and different cover , than the UK version. On this CD is the remastered version of the tape only track: p-machinery (Connected) !!!!!!!!!!! On the UK version is only the track p-Machinery (Extracts from Complete machinery) which is the b-side of the p-Machinery 12" Vinyl !!!!!!!!!!! DVD is REGION 2-6 , playable in the US and CA only on Codefree players !!!! each disc 18$ (weight 130g) (Release is end of may, preorder now and pay at end of may for your full order, price will be between 18 and 23 $) + 1x ( packing weight for each order: 20g ) Vinyls, if interested, ask for postage: 12"LP Propaganda - A secret Wish German Condition: VG/VG 12$ 12"S Propaganda - Dr. Mabuse (Testament 10:14) Condition: VG/VG woc 12$ 12"S Propaganda - p:Machinery (nicolisi remixes - Promo only) Condition: New/New 33$ Memorabilia: 4 x Poster 60cm x 40cm 50$ (only 6 sets available, ask for postage) ####################################################################################### Collect your weight and choose your postage: POSTAGE Shiping: POSTAGE Airmail: til 100g 4$ postage & packing (shiping) til 100g 6$ postage & packing (airmail) til 250g 6$ postage & packing (shiping) til 250g 9$ postage & packing (airmail) til 500g 8$ postage & packing (shiping) til 500g 14$ postage & packing (airmail) til 750g 10$ postage & packing (shiping) til 750g 18$ postage & packing (airmail) til 1kg 12$ postage & packing (shiping) til 1kg 22$ postage & packing (airmail) + registration 2$ (if wanted) + registration 2$ (if wanted) ####################################################################################### TOTAL:_______$ (if you want to pay in cash with Euro, the exchange rate is 1$ = 1Euro, Paypal is $ ,because of transfer rates) Payment (ONLY CASH OR PAYPAL; NO MONEY ORDERS ARE ACCEPTED) ¨ I pay over paypal.com to the account: propaganda.de(a)t-online.de Note: Only payment in $ over paypal !! No converted Euro currency !! Note: Buyer pays paypal fees !!! Add 3,9% + 0,3$ to the total of your order (example: Total 63$ (63x 1,039 + 0,3 = new total: 65,75$ <= Cheaper and saver than posting !) ¨ I send Cash in US$ in a (registered or unregisterd, but well hidden) letter to : Karl Hirschberger ++ Paulinus - Froehlich - Str. 22 ++ 85283 Wolnzach ++ GERMANY ####################################################################################### Buyers delivery adress: Name: Street: Zip/Town: Country: e-mail: ####################################################################################### How to order: # Fill out this sheet and mail it to propaganda.de(a)t-online.de # Wait for reply with subject "accepted" then send your payment (needed to check if everything is av.) # Wait for reply with subject "preorder accepted" send your payment when you receive a mail that your order is full available. # CD`s will be shipped within 48 hours after receiving the payment # All orders with no money arriving within 3 weeks will be canceled # overpayments will be refunded Note: # all letters are not insured and I take no warranty for deliver failures of the posting service, if insurance is desired ask for price, because its different to every country and mostly very expensive. Best way is to register a ma -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: James Dawson [mailto:stjamesdawson@hotmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Juni 2002 17:13 An: ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com Betreff: [ZTT] Re: ZTT digest, Vol 1 #40 - 1 msg >Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 15:33:50 +0200 >From: "Hirschberger Karl" <karl.hirschberger(a)siemens.com> >To: <ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: [ZTT] Outside World ! Release dates ! >Reply-To: ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com > >Release dates: > >UK CD Outside world =3D> 15.July.2002 >* Price Amazon UK 8 British Pound >* Price Amazon GE 15,99 Euro > >UK CD/DVD Outside world =3D> 10.July.2002=20 >* only online orderable Price unknown > >German CD/DVD Outside world =3D> 10.June.2002=20 > >Special service for fans around the world: >Order it over www.p-fan.de =3D> News =3D> order form. >Price is 18 Euro or 18$ !! This price is only available for the first = >four weeks,=20 >Repertoire Records has "Outside World" in this time as a special offer, = >after that=20 >time the price will be a little bit expensiver (as they told me). I went to the site (www.p-fan.de) to pre-order a copy of the German DVD/CD. When I clicked the ordering link, a ZIP file started downloading. What the...???? I immediately deleted that stuffed file without expanding it; in this virus-prone age, one never knows, and better safe than sorry, and all that. What is up with the ZIP file, and is there any way to place an order without opening that file? (Why isn't the order form simply another page on the website itself?) --James Dawson _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _______________________________________________ ZTT mailing list ZTT(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ztt

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Shades Of Rhythm
by CobraBora 10 Jun '02

10 Jun '02

German compilation 'Techno Most Wanted' does not only include 808 State's 'CÃ¼bik' but also Shades Of Rhythm's 'Exorcist'. The booklet says 'With kind permission from Repertoire Records in arrangement with ZTT Records', so obviously Repertoire also have the rights for the SOR recordings. Does anybody have information whether Repertoire are also planning re-releases of SOR material? CobraBora

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AW: [ZTT] contacting the people who run the ZTT on-line shop
by Hirschberger Karl 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

If anyone need only the german CD/DVD, you could even order over www.p-fan.de (news section) for 18 + 6 shippement. I will have some copies left. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DAYS BECOME YEARS, YEARS BECOME TEARS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: Propaganda.de(a)t-online.de Homepage: www.p-fan.de -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Arnaud [mailto:bonald@altern.org] Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Juni 2002 17:20 An: ztt(a)mailman.xmission.com Betreff: [ZTT] contacting the people who run the ZTT on-line shop Hello, I'd like to contact the people who are responsible for the ZTT on-line shop. The reason is because I'm blind, so I can't navigate the ZTT Web site, because it's highly Macromedia-flash based, so It's unusable for someone who is blind. Now, I'd like to order the "Outside World" UK CD + DVD. Any idea for an E-mail contact address, or fax number? btw, the german release of "Outside World" is orderable on www.jpc.de, this Web site offer an interface in English, French, and Spanish. Their service is very good even if they charge EUR 9 for shippement to Europe. Arnaud _______________________________________________ ZTT mailing list ZTT(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ztt

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