RE: ikue mori interview - please participate
myself, I'd rather hear an artist attempt to describe what they do in as far out and interesting a fashion as they see fit than just reduce it to the obvious mechanical aspects.
Well, that's one approach; but it seems to me that Mori (and many modern-improv artists that engage in this "exceedingly creative description" of their own work) are simply being dishonest. They're self-conscious; in a field (modern improv/jazz) that values an "intellectual", "academic", or otherwise "professor-esque" approach to one's music, they're afraid and ashamed to admit that they're simply doing what "feels right", what "comes naturally." It seems to me that someone like DJ Shadow (just an example) is being more genuine and honest - whereas someone like Mori is trying to compensate for what they percieve to be a lack of "theory" or "depth" in their musical technique. andrew
Well, that's one approach; but it seems to me that Mori (and many modern-improv artists that engage in this "exceedingly creative description" of their own work) are simply being dishonest. They're self-conscious; in a field (modern improv/jazz) that values an "intellectual", "academic", or otherwise "professor-esque" approach to one's music, they're afraid and ashamed to admit that they're simply doing what "feels right", what "comes naturally."
It seems to me that someone like DJ Shadow (just an example) is being more genuine and honest - whereas someone like Mori is trying to compensate for what they percieve to be a lack of "theory" or "depth"<<< Damned Freud virus has infected the list again.
Damned Freud virus has infected the list again.
It seems that Ms. Mori has a neurosis, probably an inferiority complex, stemming from trauma sustained in the late Oedipal Stage--exacerbated by her Elektra Complex. I know that's mostly neo-Freudian (Adler, Jung, et al), but its good fun. I couldn't go any farther out on a limb unless I analyzed a couple of her dreams to unlock the doors of her unconscious. Gee, psychodynamics is fun! Btw, any fans of the Hitchcock movie Spellbound? Great score and fun dream sequence from Dali. A little too heavy on the psychobabble and I felt embarrassed for Gregory Peck every time he fainted. C'mon, everyone knows that people don't faint during psychotherapy, they just cry like babies. Wonderful early Hitchcock, though; up there with Rebecca. Zach
on 2003.01.24 8:49 PM, Zachary Steiner at zsteiner@butler.edu wrote:
Btw, any fans of the Hitchcock movie Spellbound? Great score and fun dream sequence from Dali. A little too heavy on the psychobabble and I felt embarrassed for Gregory Peck every time he fainted. C'mon, everyone knows that people don't faint during psychotherapy, they just cry like babies. Wonderful early Hitchcock, though; up there with Rebecca.
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Giving an interview can be a little tricker on the artist than you might think. You do what you do, just trying to get it done and make it sound good, and then you're thrown up against a quantity of journalists who have their own ideas about what you do and how you do it. Sometimes they get it right the way you had in mind. Other times, they get it right in a way that may not be the thing you had in mind and it throws you. It can be a bit of a tightrope and it can sometimes feel a lot like a job interview for a job you already thought you had. As a result, some people don't come across as well while others -- who are often less gifted in the music department -- can come across with stuff that makes great copy. Personally, I've been REALLY lucky in that the people who write about me are generally doing so because they're empathic and they take up my cause. But there have been a few -- fortunately VERY few -- other times when I've read stuff about my work that makes me wonder if the journalist in question was listening to my record or someone else's, and those are usually the journalists who make authoritative pronouncements about what music I make (a "country tinged" organ trio record? Huh?) or how I describe it ("out of context" does not begin to describe a few things I've read about myself). So I can see where certain people fall into an almost defensive position when describing their work in interviews. As for my own descriptions of my work, they're not very "far out". I generally own up to what I stole and then try to change to subject before the interviewer catches up to my own appalling lack of creative integrity. I find that my superior Richard Pryor imitation diffuses things quite nicely for that. sh on 1/24/03 3:22 PM, ahorton at ahorton@vt.edu wrote:
myself, I'd rather hear an artist attempt to describe what they do in as far out and interesting a fashion as they see fit than just reduce it to the obvious mechanical aspects.
Well, that's one approach; but it seems to me that Mori (and many modern-improv artists that engage in this "exceedingly creative description" of their own work) are simply being dishonest. They're self-conscious; in a field (modern improv/jazz) that values an "intellectual", "academic", or otherwise "professor-esque" approach to one's music, they're afraid and ashamed to admit that they're simply doing what "feels right", what "comes naturally."
It seems to me that someone like DJ Shadow (just an example) is being more genuine and honest - whereas someone like Mori is trying to compensate for what they percieve to be a lack of "theory" or "depth" in their musical technique.
andrew
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myself, I'd rather hear an artist attempt to describe what they do in as far out and interesting a fashion as they see fit than just reduce it to the obvious mechanical aspects.
Well, that's one approach; but it seems to me that Mori (and many modern-improv artists that engage in this "exceedingly creative description" of their own work) are simply being dishonest. They're self-conscious; in a field (modern improv/jazz) that values an "intellectual", "academic", or otherwise "professor-esque" approach to one's music, they're afraid and ashamed to admit that they're simply doing what "feels right", what "comes naturally."
It's the "grant proposal" dialect. You don't get the grant unless you talk the talk.
participants (6)
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ahorton -
David Beardsley -
Rick Lopez -
scshsphincksz -
skip Heller -
Zachary Steiner