Re: Universal music group - questions for head attorney?
As a good opportunity to get some more verified information on this whole universal thing, I though that I would mention that I am in my second year of law school here at the University of Michigan, and the head attorney for Universal will be speaking in my copyright class this coming monday. If anyone has any particular questions that they would like to have me pose, I can always do my best to do so. Also, as just a general inquiry, I know that there is a tremendous amount of music out there that has fallen out of print. It seems to me that if there is a productive use for peer to peer technology for the labels (major or indie), it would be to utilize an apple i-tune like service to capture the value of out of print catalogues. For a lot of these sources, there is a definite demand for the product (albeit limited in some, if not most instances-obviously out of print for a reason), but the labels are not interested in keeping it in print due to the cost and the lack of return on their investment. It seems to me that this would be a fairly cost effective way for labels to capture this value while preventing things form falling out of print. Comments, concerns? Anyone have any data on the amount of material currently out of print and tied up by major label work for hire status?
one of my main concerns when it comes to stuff out of print, are the COWS' records and a bunch of stuff from Jus Broadrick & K-Martin (Ice, God and Final to name a few). i got nothing further... - k ericksna@umich.edu wrote: As a good opportunity to get some more verified information on this whole universal thing, I though that I would mention that I am in my second year of law school here at the University of Michigan, and the head attorney for Universal will be speaking in my copyright class this coming monday. If anyone has any particular questions that they would like to have me pose, I can always do my best to do so. Also, as just a general inquiry, I know that there is a tremendous amount of music out there that has fallen out of print. It seems to me that if there is a productive use for peer to peer technology for the labels (major or indie), it would be to utilize an apple i-tune like service to capture the value of out of print catalogues. For a lot of these sources, there is a definite demand for the product (albeit limited in some, if not most instances-obviously out of print for a reason), but the labels are not interested in keeping it in print due to the cost and the lack of return on their investment. It seems to me that this would be a fairly cost effective way for labels to capture this value while preventing things form falling out of print. Comments, concerns? Anyone have any data on the amount of material currently out of print and tied up by major label work for hire status? _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
to me, the cover art is very important. so printing of CDR's from labels don't come as especially good news to me...i'd rather use SoulSeek anyday. i hope Ipecac will re-release the whole Cows catalogue some day... - k Chris Selvig <selvig@earthlink.net> wrote: None of the Cows stuff was put out by majors, but with the exception of the early stuff on the Treehouse label, I'd be surprised if those records don't see a reissue someday. A 180-gram audiophile pressing of "Effete and Impudent Snobs," that's what I need... Erick's broader question is a good one, though - majors could certainly sell o/p stuff as MP3 downloads (yuck). I think there was a thread a year or so back about doing a print-on-demand CDR service, which one of the big book distributors (Ingram?) does with obscure titles. They could even license record stores to do this, thinks the hopeful retailer in me. CEMA (Capitol et al) did a larger-scale version of that in the mid-90s, taking preorders for a CD of Cecil Taylor's "Conquistador" and just pressing enough to fill preorders, rather than press palletloads of CDs to gather dust in their warehouse as they usually do. -Chris At 05:38 PM 9/19/2003 -0700, kev booyaka wrote: --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
sorry, i must've misunderstood yer previous post... that's a good indea, but wouldn't that be very expensive for the person demanding AND for the middle man (the record store you're ordering from)? - k Chris Selvig <selvig@earthlink.net> wrote: I'm not proposing labels do some sorta crappy mixtape type of CDR; they already have the artwork and the masters, y'know, so they could do print-on-demand copies of CDs that'd be the same as if they pressed up a bunch of regular CDs. At 02:52 AM 9/20/2003 -0700, kev booyaka wrote: to me, the cover art is very important. so printing of CDR's from labels don't come as especially good news to me...i'd rather use SoulSeek anyday. i hope Ipecac will re-release the whole Cows catalogue some day... - k Chris Selvig <selvig@earthlink.net> wrote: None of the Cows stuff was put out by majors, but with the exception of the early stuff on the Treehouse label, I'd be surprised if those records don't see a reissue someday. A 180-gram audiophile pressing of "Effete and Impudent Snobs," that's what I need... Erick's broader question is a good one, though - majors could certainly sell o/p stuff as MP3 downloads (yuck). I think there was a thread a year or so back about doing a print-on-demand CDR service, which one of the big book distributors (Ingram?) does with obscure titles. They could even license record stores to do this, thinks the hopeful retailer in me. CEMA (Capitol et al) did a larger-scale version of that in the mid-90s, taking preorders for a CD of Cecil Taylor's "Conquistador" and just pressing enough to fill preorders, rather than press palletloads of CDs to gather dust in their warehouse as they usually do. -Chris At 05:38 PM 9/19/2003 -0700, kev booyaka wrote: Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software Chris Selvig _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
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