I understand Teo's point, but anyone buying this set has got to be 1) a Miles fan who, like myself, only sees this as a glimpse of what went on in the studio and not as a finished product 2) is almost certainly aware from previous boxes of what this is all about 3) and understands that Miles never would have let these boxes be put out (unless the $ was right). I believe that the DVD "behind the scenes reveal everything" phenomena (?) has had an effect on CD boxes of this sort. Not much is left to the imagination, just check out any DVD from The Matrix to The Lion King. Does Sony think anyone not familiar with Miles is going to buy these boxes? They can't be that stupid. So they are preaching to the converted who are looking for more of the same. Bring on "On the Corner!" Alan Kayser _________________________________________________________________ Fretting that your Hotmail account may expire because you forgot to sign in enough? Get Hotmail Extra Storage today! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Sort of a late addition, but I can only seem to get online once or twice a week these days. Pooh. MEEP! Alan Kayser wrote:
I believe that the DVD "behind the scenes reveal everything" phenomena (?) has had an effect on CD boxes of this sort. Not much is left to the imagination, just check out any DVD from The Matrix to The Lion King. Honestly, outside of the really detail-oriented niche imprints like Elite or Criterion, I haven't seen too many DVDs that actually *did* reveal anything useful about the movie-making process. Aside from the CGI-intensive flagship titles that provide brief effects documentaries, most of the supplements that I've seen have been electronic press kit excerpts, trailers, and the odd music video... whoo-ha. Even most commentary tracks are just tedious run-throughs of who had a cold when a particular scene was shot, but the occasional gem does turn up that justifies the technology (I love the friendly bull sessions on Elite's Re-Animator and Evil Dead sets). Does anybody know if DVD-Audio supports multiple streams (or channels, or whatever they're properly/technically called) in the same way? The idea of getting some of the people involved in putting an album together to talk about it, and releasing the results as something more substantial than a couple of sentences in "extended liner notes" could work out really well.
-me PS: Way, way after the fact, the remastered The The albums that Sony put out last year sound brilliant. Dusk practically tears its way out of the speakers now... I'm a very happy bunny.
A few people actually show some imagination when doing the DVD supplement stuff -- Kevin Smith, Michael Moore, and the Coen Bros actually make owning a DVD player really worthwhile. The best has to be PLEASANTVILLE -- with Randy Newman giving scene by scene commentary on the score, and whatever else pops into his head. skip PS the term for those multiple streams is "layers" on 10/22/03 1:33 AM, Taylor McLaren at morakanabad@yahoo.ca wrote:
Sort of a late addition, but I can only seem to get online once or twice a week these days. Pooh.
MEEP! Alan Kayser wrote:
I believe that the DVD "behind the scenes reveal everything" phenomena (?) has had an effect on CD boxes of this sort. Not much is left to the imagination, just check out any DVD from The Matrix to The Lion King. Honestly, outside of the really detail-oriented niche imprints like Elite or Criterion, I haven't seen too many DVDs that actually *did* reveal anything useful about the movie-making process. Aside from the CGI-intensive flagship titles that provide brief effects documentaries, most of the supplements that I've seen have been electronic press kit excerpts, trailers, and the odd music video... whoo-ha. Even most commentary tracks are just tedious run-throughs of who had a cold when a particular scene was shot, but the occasional gem does turn up that justifies the technology (I love the friendly bull sessions on Elite's Re-Animator and Evil Dead sets). Does anybody know if DVD-Audio supports multiple streams (or channels, or whatever they're properly/technically called) in the same way? The idea of getting some of the people involved in putting an album together to talk about it, and releasing the results as something more substantial than a couple of sentences in "extended liner notes" could work out really well.
-me
PS: Way, way after the fact, the remastered The The albums that Sony put out last year sound brilliant. Dusk practically tears its way out of the speakers now... I'm a very happy bunny.
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On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 01:33, Taylor McLaren wrote:
Honestly, outside of the really detail-oriented niche imprints like Elite or Criterion, I haven't seen too many DVDs that actually *did* reveal anything useful about the movie-making process. Aside from the CGI-intensive flagship titles that provide brief effects documentaries, most of the supplements that I've seen have been electronic press kit excerpts, trailers, and the odd music video... whoo-ha.
A couple of good ones that come to mind are "Waking Life", which has a good demonstration of how the movie was made, and "Terminator 2", which, like "Waking Life", uses the commentary track for interviews with the people who actually worked on the various segments, rather than a film-long ramble. One problem is that I've heard that some companies, WB in particular, refuse to pay people to do the commentaries, thus, to say the least, limiting the quality of what they get. The revived Artists House label appears to be doing amazing packages for CDs, with commentary, transcriptions, etc (though I wish I was as interested in what they're recording now as I was in the Ornette, etc, discs from their previous incarnation): http://www.artistshousemusic.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=17
Even most commentary tracks are just tedious run-throughs of who had a cold when a particular scene was shot, but the occasional gem does turn up that justifies the technology (I love the friendly bull sessions on Elite's Re-Animator and Evil Dead sets). Does anybody know if DVD-Audio supports multiple streams (or channels, or whatever they're properly/technically called) in the same way? The idea of getting some of the people involved in putting an album together to talk about it, and releasing the results as something more substantial than a couple of sentences in "extended liner notes" could work out really well.
-me
PS: Way, way after the fact, the remastered The The albums that Sony put out last year sound brilliant. Dusk practically tears its way out of the speakers now... I'm a very happy bunny.
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