Have you heard Creed? What about Pearl Jam? Where as Radiohead is not truly experimental, they are doing things in rock that few other nascent bands will. I don't find their lack of true experimentation to be a deterrent to my enjoyment of their music. There are plenty of bands that explore previously mapped out territory to great effect. If any one can be accused of being too self-conciously, intentionally post-modern, it is Mr. Zorn. This is not inherently a bad thing, IMHO. Zach ----- Original Message ----- From: ahorton <ahorton@vt.edu> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:02 pm Subject: rawk
I came to Zorn's music from indie rock, so I have to drop some comments. I think Radiohead are one of the least interesting bands currently recording and making music; their songs are too intentionally "postmodern"/"faux-avant garde" to touch me, or anyone, personally and emotionally, and the music is wholly uninteresting as well. I'm tiring of so many people calling the band "experimental", when they're simply doing things that other artists made safe years ago.
I've always found it artificial that innovation gets counted ahead of heart & soul in any form of music. This need to judge bands by how much "innovation" they bring to the critical table has very little to do with the spiritual investment that goes into the actual making of music. It's this sort of thinking that gets Coltrane hoisted on a higher petard than Hank Mobley or James Moody, and the fact of the matter is that the picture of saxophone needs all of them equally to be a complete picture, which is something Coltrane would have been the first to tell you. How "experimental" was Monk in the 1960's? Not very. But it was in most ways his greatest period, largely because he had had the time for his total style (as bandleader, composer, and player) to gel. Conventional wisdom says that Coltrane was the best saxophonist he ever had. I think, with regards to the service of Monk's music, Rouse was beyond perfection. In Zorn's defense, I have never gotten the sense that he's intentionally trying to innovate. I've gotten more of an impression that he's just trying to satisfy his own curiosities as a composer. sh on 6/25/03 11:38 AM, zsteiner@butler.edu at zsteiner@butler.edu wrote:
Have you heard Creed? What about Pearl Jam? Where as Radiohead is not truly experimental, they are doing things in rock that few other nascent bands will. I don't find their lack of true experimentation to be a deterrent to my enjoyment of their music. There are plenty of bands that explore previously mapped out territory to great effect.
If any one can be accused of being too self-conciously, intentionally post-modern, it is Mr. Zorn. This is not inherently a bad thing, IMHO.
Zach
----- Original Message ----- From: ahorton <ahorton@vt.edu> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 12:02 pm Subject: rawk
I came to Zorn's music from indie rock, so I have to drop some comments. I think Radiohead are one of the least interesting bands currently recording and making music; their songs are too intentionally "postmodern"/"faux-avant garde" to touch me, or anyone, personally and emotionally, and the music is wholly uninteresting as well. I'm tiring of so many people calling the band "experimental", when they're simply doing things that other artists made safe years ago.
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