everyone has made very good recommendations. i would like to add: Lounge Lizards-first album (s/t) Golden Palaminos-first album (s/t)-includes Zorn, Anton Fier, Arto Lindsay, Bill Laswell James White and the Blacks-off white i will second TJatJ, Contortions, and Mars. definitely essential. i still need to pick up the live DNA. also worth checking out that are related: Lydia Lunch-Queen of Siam (one of my favorite records from the era, very stark, noisey but........catchy?) Vincent Gallo-recordings of music for film (by no means is this entire album no wave, but he was in a famous band from the 80's with Jean Michel Basquiat called Gray. some of the older cuts on this disc are very noisey and skronky, similar to old Arto stuff. the other tracks are very pretty too) atavistic recently re-issued lydia lunch's 8-eyed spy. i haven't heard it yet. has anybody picked it up? some newer bands rocking the no wave tip: arab on radar and erase errata. i highly recommend. also weasel walter from the flying luttenbachers has a no wave picture archive. he briefly states what he thinks no wave is about. i think the URL is www.nowave.pair.com it's a great list of no wave bands to check out. -adam morosky _________________________________________________________________ Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage – 4 plans to choose from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/