Any Tim Berne fans on the list? I saw a Big Satan show Friday and was blown away! Marc Ducret, Tom Rainey - Wow! His album "Science Friction" is amazing and I was curious as to the opinions of some of his other releases... The only ones I have are: The Shell Game, Science Friction, Big Satan's Winter & Winter release and an old BloodCount disc with Jim Black on drums... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com
Hi Theo, Tim Berne is, for me, one of the most important jazz composers and musicians today. His output is incredibly original, personal and at some points, a bit hermetic, which makes his palette even wider. The Bloodcount albums are all very interesting, among the best he's done imho, specially those released through his own label Screwgun. I guess the one you have is a triple concert he released through one of his former labels, JMT. It's called, pretty obviously, "The Paris Concert" and it has Marc Ducret as a guest (and a very good one indeed). I wouldn't say the material is exactly similar to that of the Screwgun era, although it wears the composer's imprint. His other works with the Bloodcount Qtet are a bit less dispersed, spacious, and has more aggressivity & heavy rythms thrown in-between of those slow, soft collective improvisations. However, the tone is expect the unexpected in all of those albums. Any of them are good starters (and all of them are live albums as well) but maybe you could jump in with the triple box "Unwound". If you don't like it, it's a perfect album to show to your guests with that incredible presentation and artwork :-) "The Shell Game" maybe is closer to Bloodcount in terms of spacious improvisations and slow paced developments as opposed to the more dynamic Big Satan album or "Science Friction". They're probably easier listenings, although it's very easy to discern such a personality as Berne's. There's a recent double album, "Open Coma", which is a very complex example of his compositional stylings. More a chamber work than a jazz-oriented project, sure enough, although a good portion of his work has a chamber-ish feel due to his taste for long passages with little or no rythmic pulse (or at least in its standard sense). If you want Berne at his rawest, try with his improv trio Paraphrase. They have two live albums on Screwgun and it's about wild improvisations without the complex structures of most of his works. There's a very interesting interview with Tim Berne at Perfect Sound Forever (www.furious.com/perfect) and I also did one last December 2002 for www.tomajazz.com (can't remember the exact link but the section is "Perfiles). Mine is not so interesting! All the best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Paul Shapiro "Midnight Minyan" (Tzadik) --- Theo Klaase <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com> escribió: > Any Tim Berne fans on the list? I saw a Big
Satan show Friday and was blown away! Marc Ducret, Tom Rainey - Wow!
His album "Science Friction" is amazing and I was curious as to the opinions of some of his other releases... The only ones I have are: The Shell Game, Science Friction, Big Satan's Winter & Winter release and an old BloodCount disc with Jim Black on drums...
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on 6/10/03 8:47 AM, Theo Klaase at river_of_dogs@yahoo.com wrote:
His album "Science Friction" is amazing and I was curious as to the opinions of some of his other releases
Find FULTON STREET MAUL and MINIATURE, which are from the 80s and really twisted me up when they came out. They're both fantastic, and you hear the beginnings of so much that would be great about him and his subsequent output. sh
Since Efren has already provided you with some outstanding advice regarding recent Berne, all I'll add is that you should run, don't walk, to pick up the Winter and Winter reissue of 'Fractured Fairy Tales,' one of the essential Berne discs that went too long out of print. And speaking of out of print, you should snatch up the two Koch reissues of Tim's Columbia albums, 'Fulton Street Maul' and 'Sanctified Dreams,' since they've both ben deleted again. The earlier album is dense, dizzying and includes some of Bill Frisell's most satisfying shred ever; the latter is simply outstanding skewed avant-bop and, along with 'Fractured Fairy Tales,' one of Tim's earliest "mature" statements. Regarding the Screwgun releases by blodcount (about which I'm hardly objective, having had a small hand in their release at the time), if the thought of a 3CD plunge is daunting, the single disc 'Discretion' is a good indicator of what you can expect from Berne of that vintage. "Is That a Gap?" still holds up for me as one of his strongest, grooviest compositions, especially when Mike and Jim start insinuating that commanding backbeat behind the squalling horns. I'm sure that Tim might have mentioned at the show you attended that it was a final "rehearsal" before they took that new material into the studio, I believe for Winter and Winter. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theo Klaase" <river_of_dogs@yahoo.com> To: <zorn-list@lists.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: Tim Berne
Any Tim Berne fans on the list? I saw a Big Satan show Friday and was blown away! Marc Ducret, Tom Rainey - Wow!
His album "Science Friction" is amazing and I was curious as to the opinions of some of his other releases... The only ones I have are: The Shell Game, Science Friction, Big Satan's Winter & Winter release and an old BloodCount disc with Jim Black on drums...
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I'm sure that Tim might have mentioned at the show you attended that it was a final "rehearsal" before they took that new material into the studio, I believe for Winter and Winter.
AND, the screwgun e-newsletter-thingie says that the European tour of the hardcell band (Tom Rainey, Berne, Craig Taborn maybe Ducret) was recorded for a two-cd release by thirsty ear in the fall sometime. my mind is still being blown over a show that that trio did here last october.
some that havent been mentioned yet are Open, Coma and The Sevens. Two very different albums from everything else, but essential. Open, Coma is epic, think tim's music with tons of players, its great & I will probably be digesting it for the rest of my life. check out sound clips http://screwgunrecords.com/sound.htm The sevens is a sax quartet, ducret and torn. There are tunes that are just sax quartet and really show tim's compositional sense. One really big tune with the quartet and ducret, ducret does a solo guitar version of the beginning of *that* tune off sciencefriction. its a great record, dont get too obsessed with the old stuff. tims playing with science friction in london this fall...set design by steve byram Hes going to release a double live album from the science friction tour this spring, not sure if its on thirtsy or screwgun... also... for all that are interested in studying music, hes got his scores for sale on the screwgunsite. http://screwgunrecords.com/buymusic.htm#sheetmusic __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com
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Efrén del Valle -
jason tors -
Sean Westergaard -
skip Heller -
Steve Smith -
Theo Klaase