Hamid has played with just about eveyone. I got the chance to host him and Brotzmann at the club I manage a couple of years ago. I place him in that class of drummers that includes Milford Graves and Sunny Murray, William Hooker, etc. His style is different from those mentioned but he has a similar questing quality to his work. There'a a duet CD with William Parker called "Piercing The Veil" that's good, but then again I've not ever really heard him play half-assed or poorly on any recording, regardless of the overall quality of the disc and the playing of the other participants .. Thanks to those that pointed me to the Tonic site for the Zornfest lineup. I checked their site not too long ago and the info wasn't up yet. CL In the CD player: Fred Frith/Maybe Monday-Digital Wildlife "The Prisoners' Dilemma" _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
I`ve heard Hamid live in several groups and like him a lot on drums.But he is dissapointing on any kind of hand drums, congas or something like that.He`'s loosing all his professionality doing this-like in a school band. That's my impression freebop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Lieske" <garbageisland@hotmail.com> To: <zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Hamid Drake
Hamid has played with just about eveyone. I got the chance to host him and Brotzmann at the club I manage a couple of years ago. I place him in that class of drummers that includes Milford Graves and Sunny Murray, William Hooker, etc. His style is different from those mentioned but he has a similar questing quality to his work. There'a a duet CD with William Parker called "Piercing The Veil" that's good, but then again I've not ever really heard him play half-assed or poorly on any recording, regardless of the overall quality of the disc and the playing of the other participants .. Thanks to those that pointed me to the Tonic site for the Zornfest lineup. I checked their site not too long ago and the info wasn't up yet.
CL
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Usually I would ignore stupid commments like this but you're talking about Hamid Drake. The man is a spiritual drum master. In whatever context he is playing, his soulful groove commands deep respect. It is especially when he brings out his frame drum that one can feel a deep spiritual connection with the ancestral voices. These are moments of purity and magic that bring out a spiritual side of whomever he is playing with. fk <fkapitzke@cityweb.de> wrote: I`ve heard Hamid live in several groups and like him a lot on drums.But he is dissapointing on any kind of hand drums, congas or something like that.He`'s loosing all his professionality doing this-like in a school band. That's my impression freebop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Lieske" To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Hamid Drake
Hamid has played with just about eveyone. I got the chance to host him and Brotzmann at the club I manage a couple of years ago. I place him in that class of drummers that includes Milford Graves and Sunny Murray, William Hooker, etc. His style is different from those mentioned but he has a similar questing quality to his work. There'a a duet CD with William Parker called "Piercing The Veil" that's good, but then again I've not ever really heard him play half-assed or poorly on any recording, regardless of the overall quality of the disc and the playing of the other participants .. Thanks to those that pointed me to the Tonic site for the Zornfest lineup. I checked their site not too long ago and the info wasn't up yet.
CL
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Usually I would ignore stupid commments like this but you're talking about Hamid Drake. The man is a spiritual drum master. In whatever context he is playing, his soulful groove commands deep respect. It is especially when he brings out his frame drum that one can feel a deep spiritual connection with the ancestral voices. These are moments of purity and magic that bring out a spiritual side of whomever he is playing with.
With all due respect, and even from the perspective of a big fan of Drake's, this is pure doubletalk. If having a "deep spiritual connection" would be relevant to how well one plays the drums, the Dalai Lama would be a percussion master... and I haven't heard anyone raving about *his* grooves.
"Deep spiritual connection" by itself does not make Hamid or the Dalai Lama or anyone a great musician. The same way that having a great ability to play an instrument doesn't guarrantee great music. The combination of both can blend wonderful results, from Coltrane to William Parker, but that doesn't mean that it always does. Hamid's playing is the product of both elements. Doesn't mean that every time he plays, it's all about spiritual transcendence (especially considering that Hamid is willing to play in a variety of musical contexts, from Calypso bands to Painkiller). But there is certainly, at least for me, a sense of spirituality in his freer playing and particularly when he introduces the frame drum in that context. Joseph Zitt <jzitt@metatronpress.com> wrote: Jorge Gallegos wrote:
Usually I would ignore stupid commments like this but you're talking about Hamid Drake. The man is a spiritual drum master. In whatever context he is playing, his soulful groove commands deep respect. It is especially when he brings out his frame drum that one can feel a deep spiritual connection with the ancestral voices. These are moments of purity and magic that bring out a spiritual side of whomever he is playing with.
With all due respect, and even from the perspective of a big fan of Drake's, this is pure doubletalk. If having a "deep spiritual connection" would be relevant to how well one plays the drums, the Dalai Lama would be a percussion master... and I haven't heard anyone raving about *his* grooves. _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!
Hi,
Usually I would ignore stupid commments like this but you're talking about Hamid Drake.
That's tolerance, boy.
The man is a spiritual drum master.
So what? William Parker affirms he's seen colors and his double-bass has levitated in some sort of trascendental climax. Fortunately, he CAN play bass and the rest I don't care at all- in fact, I wouldn't like to express my opinion about a certain spiritualism in free-jazz.
In whatever context he is playing, his soulful groove commands deep respect. It is especially when he brings out his frame drum that one can feel a deep spiritual connection with the ancestral voices.
When you buy a concert ticket you always get your moneys worth, don't you? These are moments of purity
and magic that bring out a spiritual side of whomever he is playing with.
You should have seen him with David Murray in a calypso/reggae project he brought to Barcelona a couple of months ago. There's a big difference between spiritualism and boredom disguised in some kind of ancestors heritage, and what we got was the latter. I generally admire Drake's playing but in that context he was a plain drummer, just like anybody else, even on hand drums. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Hugo Montenegro "More Music from The Man from UNCLE" (RCA)
fk <fkapitzke@cityweb.de> wrote: I`ve heard Hamid live in several groups and like him a lot on drums.But he is dissapointing on any kind of hand drums, congas or something like that.He`'s loosing all his professionality doing this-like in a school band. That's my impression freebop
----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig Lieske" To: Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 9:34 PM Subject: Hamid Drake
Hamid has played with just about eveyone. I got the chance to host him and Brotzmann at the club I manage a couple of years ago. I place him in that class of drummers that includes Milford Graves and Sunny Murray, William Hooker, etc. His style is different from those mentioned but he has a similar questing quality to his work. There'a a duet CD with William Parker called "Piercing The Veil" that's good, but then again I've not ever really heard him play half-assed or poorly on any recording, regardless of the overall quality of the disc and the playing of the other participants .. Thanks to those that pointed me to the Tonic site for the Zornfest lineup. I checked their site not too long ago and the info wasn't up yet.
CL
In the CD player: Fred Frith/Maybe Monday-Digital Wildlife "The Prisoners' Dilemma"
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Jorge Gallegos -
Joseph Zitt