Edgar Lee
hadn't listened to Emerson, Lake and Palmer since 1977. Punk on the radio and TV altered what he was listening to and he merrily ventured on that journey from punk to post punk, to jazz punk, jazz and the avant garde and so on.
interesting ... i guess many people went on that same journey, although i started a little after you. after a pre-adolescence spent with glam and hard rock, i discovered punk. i've never been able to take elp, genesis, none of those. when i started getting into the ruins years later, and discovered their origins were in prog, i decided i should try again. i traded an allen ginsburg cd for a magma cd, and could barely stand it. now i'm in a band with a coupla proggers (one of whom lurks here ... hi), and end up here the real stuff, the good stuff, miriodor or whatever the hell they listen to. i just can't do it. i've often wondered if my punk teens were so about rejecting the status quo (i have the same problem with springsteen) that i still can't get over it. or maybe that shit just sucks. kg np: the residents - assorted secrets ... you shouldn't listen to this _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
on 10/4/02 10:19 AM, Kurt Gottschalk at ecstasymule@hotmail.com wrote:
interesting ... i guess many people went on that same journey, although i started a little after you. after a pre-adolescence spent with glam and hard rock, i discovered punk. i've never been able to take elp, genesis, none of those.
me either. that stuff still makes my skin crawl, no matter who pedigrees it. skip h
Oddly enough, I got into punk and prog at exactly the same time. I know that's not how you're supposed to do it, but there it is: I did English literature class reports on Crimson, Genesis and ELP lyrics, whilst privately shaking my ass to 'London Calling' (and air-drumming to Kiss 'Alive 2'). In college, I abandoned pretty much all prog except for Crimson, and headed more into the whole SST vibe. I couldn't ever really get down with the Univers Zero/Miriodor crowd, but perversely I have a soft spot for Marillion, lord only knows why. The Canterbury stuff is hit and miss: I appreciate Soft Machine, but I love Hatfield and the North. Of the early prog stuff, it's only ELP that I postively can't abide now (though the first record is about as good as they ever got). Genesis I don't listen to very much but still appreciate much of the early stuff and every now and then consider getting 'Lamb Lies Down'; I liked the first four Gabriel solo discs and the new one's alright as well. Yes I couldn't listen to back then but rather enjoy now. Crimson, well, I still pull out all of those albums and listen to 'em (just a few weeks ago, on the occasion of buying 'Earthbound' and 'USA' on disc, I listened to all of them in order. And I eagerly await each new one, even though the last studio album disapointed me (new EP out on Tuesday Oct. 8). Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com -----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of skip Heller Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:30 PM To: Kurt Gottschalk; edgaralee@yahoo.com.au; zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: Emerson, Lake and Palmer on 10/4/02 10:19 AM, Kurt Gottschalk at ecstasymule@hotmail.com wrote:
interesting ... i guess many people went on that same journey, although i started a little after you. after a pre-adolescence spent with glam and hard rock, i discovered punk. i've never been able to take elp, genesis, none of those.
me either. that stuff still makes my skin crawl, no matter who pedigrees it. skip h _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list
Details, such as they are, can be found at http://www.disciplineglobalmobile.com/kingcrimson/, but here's the nutshell version: The new EP, 'Happy With What You Have To Be Happy With,' is due out on October 8 in the U.S. (on Sanctuary) and Japan (on Universal), and sometime in November in Europe (again on Sanctuary). The performers are the current quartet (Fripp, Belew, Gunn, Mastelotto), and the material includes one complete track from the upcoming album 'The Power to Believe,' due early next year, plus early versions of other new tunes and some older material that's been tweaked a bit. A track listing for the EP and cover art for both EP and album can be found at the website; follow the links from the "News" pop-up that will greet you at the website. As far as I know, there are no sound files online anywhere yet, and promotional copies had not been supplied to reviewers as of yesterday's mailbag. The 'Ladies of the Road' archival set I mentioned yesterday, BTW, is being called a "Collector's Club Special Edition,' and will presumably only be available through the website. They'll start taking pre-orders around October 12. Anything else, we should probably take it off-list. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com
My first arena rock concert was ELP on the Brain Salad Surgery Tour. Four enormous banks of speakers creating mind-numbing quadrophenia as the bombast ping-ponged around the space from corner to corner and then whirled around the perimeter with blinding speed. While it might put me to sleep from this vantage point some 30 years hence, at the time it was a gooseflesh inducing spectatcle I am pleased to have in the memory vault.
This jazzbo (then) and jazzbo (now), saw ELP in concert probably even earlier than Keith M. because it was so long ago tours didn't have titles for marketing hooks. (Come to think of it maybe it was even The Nice!) This may have taken place at a rock festival -- remember them? --at the Montreal Forum. Anyhow, what I remember most besides the bombast and the tumult was Keith Emerson running around the stage with his mini moog cocked like a pistol,"firing" bursts of sound into the audience. If that gesture alone didn't set back the acceptance of synthesizers among "serious" musicians a good decade, I don't know what did. Ken Waxman --- Keith McMullen <keithsz@concentric.net> wrote:
My first arena rock concert was ELP on the Brain Salad Surgery Tour. Four enormous banks of speakers creating mind-numbing quadrophenia as the bombast ping-ponged around the space from corner to corner and then whirled around the perimeter with blinding speed. While it might put me to sleep from this vantage point some 30 years hence, at the time it was a gooseflesh inducing spectatcle I am pleased to have in the memory vault.
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