Re: Captain Beefheart
To say that Safe As Milk and Mirror Man, especially the remastered versions are for completists only is steering a new fan away from essential Beefheart. I have followed Beefheart for decades and have never been tempted to buy Bluejeans or Unconditionally.
I don't know about hairsplitting over the relative merits of the Captain's output, or even the best way in, but MIRROR MAN is pretty ridiculous. I was listening to its blues-not-blues a year ago and the whole post-rock camp seemed to slop into place as a very minor footnote in rock history, doughy pale po-faced imitators. MIRROR MAN is bold crazy stuff and grooves like mad. It is amazing. But of course, so are all the others you have mentioned. In some ways I prefer MM to TROUT MASK. I think it's more cohesive, for one thing. It grooves harder, it has more blues soaked into it. No way is it better, but I reach for it (MM) more often. FWIW. Speaking of Captain Beefheart, has anyone heard the mishmash 'n miscellaneous recordings by Gary Lucas and Jeff Buckley that Knitting Factory just put out? How good is it? I am not a huge Buckley fan, but Lucas is a killer, killer guitar wrangler. ---------s np: XTC, ENGLISH SETTLEMENT __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/
I don't know about hairsplitting over the relative merits of the Captain's output, or even the best way in, but MIRROR MAN is pretty ridiculous. I was listening to its blues-not-blues a year ago and the whole post-rock camp seemed to slop into place as a very minor footnote in rock history, doughy pale po-faced imitators. MIRROR MAN is bold crazy stuff and grooves like mad. It is amazing.
It's worth it just for Tarotplane. The groove and distorted harmonica...mmm, goodness. This was my first Beefheart album and Trout Mask the second. I listen to MM more, too. Zach
Hello, ...."Trout Mask" is one of my desert island records, but I too must admit that I've listened to "Mirror Man" more frequently. "Trout" can be a bit draining, and I will sometimes go hrs w/out listening to anything else after playing it. With "Mirror" I can do other things like read or cook or post messages. "Trout" is one of those records that I have to give my undivided attention to every time I listen. So therefore it gets less play but the play it gets is pretty damn valuable. On the Capt. vs. Zappa debate, for me the Capt. wins, but I certainly have serious love for the Mothers '60's stuff. "Absolutely Free" in particular. The live "Ahead of their Time", also. Can't complain about "Hot Rats, either. Boy, I'd love to hear that "We Are the Mothers, and This is What We Sound Like" boot again. I remain.... Joseph NP: Lol Coxhill- "Digswell Duets" LP NR: Samuel R. Delaney- "Heavenly Breakfast" -----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Zachary Steiner Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 4:11 PM To: 'thesubtlebody'; zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com Subject: RE: Captain B
I don't know about hairsplitting over the relative merits of the Captain's output, or even the best way in, but MIRROR MAN is pretty ridiculous. I was listening to its blues-not-blues a year ago and the whole post-rock camp seemed to slop into place as a very minor footnote in rock history, doughy pale po-faced imitators. MIRROR MAN is bold crazy stuff and grooves like mad. It is amazing.
It's worth it just for Tarotplane. The groove and distorted harmonica...mmm, goodness. This was my first Beefheart album and Trout Mask the second. I listen to MM more, too. Zach _______________________________________________ zorn-list mailing list zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com To UNSUBSCRIBE or Change Your Subscription Options, go to the webpage below http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list
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