on 6/4/02 12:04 PM, Patrice L. Roussel at proussel@ichips.intel.com wrote:

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Denny Zeitlin Complete Columbia Trios with Charlie Haden & Jerry Granelli Charles Wright/Watts 103rd St Band -- You're So beautiful (WB) the complete Jerry Butler/Impressions Abner sessions Rochester/Veasley Band -- One Minute Of Love (Grammavision) Essential Logic -- Beat Rhythm News (Rough Trade) Slits -- Return Of The Giant Slits (CBS UK) pre-Ahmad Jamal Three Strings stuff with Hassan Ibn Ali on piano all the remaining Monk Columbia titles a shitload of Les Baxter Capitol titles a comprehensive non-LP Mickey Katz singles collection, spanning both RCA and Capitol Keith Jarrett -- Bop be (Impulse) skip h NP: MUSIC FR THE YIDDISH RADIO PROJECT (Shanachie)

On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:32:43 -0700 skip Heller wrote:

on 6/4/02 12:04 PM, Patrice L. Roussel at proussel@ichips.intel.com wrote:

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Denny Zeitlin Complete Columbia Trios with Charlie Haden & Jerry Granelli Charles Wright/Watts 103rd St Band -- You're So beautiful (WB) the complete Jerry Butler/Impressions Abner sessions Rochester/Veasley Band -- One Minute Of Love (Grammavision) Essential Logic -- Beat Rhythm News (Rough Trade) Slits -- Return Of The Giant Slits (CBS UK)

I remember reading that Steve Beresford played with the Slits. Is there any document to testify that collaboration? Patrice.

On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 12:41:24 -0700 skip Heller wrote:

BTW -- Zorn did play on the Rochester/Veasley. He can only wish to have played on the other titles.

At least he had no issue with his name being mentioned on that record (not like with Lenny White's ATTITUDE). I guess I will have to dig my LP and listen to it carefully (since I have no special memory of it). What is it that you like so much about it, Skip? Patrice (who had so much fun looking for records with Zorn as a sporadic guest).

on 6/5/02 4:13 PM, Alan Lankin at lankina@att.net wrote:

Skip'll have part of his wish come true this Fall:

Thelonious Monk - Live at Newport 1963 & 1965 - 2 CDs (Columbia/Legacy) Thelonious Monk - Monk's Dream (Columbia/Legacy) -- four alternate takes Thelonious Monk - Monk (Columbia/Legacy) -- four alternate takes

But not IT'S MONK'S TIME? What's the hold-up?

I've heard that they sound great.

Alan Lankin

-- Jazzmatazz http://jazzmatazz.home.att.net lankina@att.net

skip Heller wrote:

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all the remaining Monk Columbia titles

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Some more possibilities: - John Cage: Ryoanji (Mode, never released on CD) - Jan Steele/John Cage: Voices and Instruments (Obscure -- and for that matter, everything else on that label that's not yet been reissued) - Robert Fripp: The original, unabridged "God Save the Queen/Under Heavy Manners" - La Monte Young: Everything - Tom Robinson (there was a live album that was great, but I forget what it was) - Meat Loaf: his great B-Side, from pre-fame days, of "Presence of the Lord" - Carles Santos: Voice Tracks - James Blood Ulmer: America Do You Remember the Love (Blue Note, briefly on Japanese CD) - Everything from the Columbia Odyssey label (including the premiere, unsurpassed recordings of Feldman's "Rothko Chapel", etc) - Everything from the Opus One label - Peter Gordon: Star Jaws (and, for that matter, a lot of the other vinyl-only stuff on the Lovely Music label) - Ornette Coleman: Live at the Caravan of Dreams - Ornette Coleman: Of Human Feelings (Antilles, only on Japanese CD) - Various artists: The Greater Antilles Sampler (Antilles) - Various artists: Airwaves (One Ten) - Various artists: Sleepers (Finnadar) -- | jzitt@metatronpress.com http://www.josephzitt.com/ | | http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/ http://www.mp3.com/josephzitt/ | | == New book: Surprise Me with Beauty: the Music of Human Systems == | | Comma / Gray Code Silence: the John Cage Discussion List |

On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 23:25:14 -0500 Joseph Zitt wrote:

- Peter Gordon: Star Jaws (and, for that matter, a lot of the other vinyl-only stuff on the Lovely Music label)

Nice to see that other people enjoy Peter Gordon! This reminds me that another top priority reissue (unlikely) is Ashley's THE BAR. My biggest disappointment was to get the CD reissue and realize that the version was different, and, IMHO, not as exciting and entertaining as the original one. Patrice.

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This may have been done before, but which other records would list

members like to see reissued that still haven't made it to CD?

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It still strikes me that NONE of the sixties and seventies ICP Orchestra LP's have been reissued, and very few Willem Breuker. Not even the archival catalogue number ICP 015, with Misha Mengelberg playing the blues with a parrot, and a rough sounding alternate take of Epistrophy featuring Eric Dolphy. Rumours go, that this record paid off the cost of the whole catalog.

Catalog of NATO records (to follow the guy who mentioned those cool Lol Coxhill LP's, in the eighties Lol did more cool stuff which is nowhere to be found these days) Not on cd: Those strange fusiony souljazz records by Albert Ayler on Impulse. Japanese pressings do exist though. Gruppo di improvvisiazione nuova consonanza LP: new/ contemporary/ improv featuring Ennio Morricone! Chick Corea Circling In: Blue Note archival 1967-1970 outtakes of groups that later became CIRCLE (of the fantastic yellow ECM double album/ cd). Early Henry Kaiser material. Fred Frith in Japan (as discussed a while ago, the tapes appear to be lost) Association PC: along with other early 'rockjazz groups' who never appeared on cd, many pieces of evidence that a large chunk of jazzrock once came out of free jazz mixed with rock/ electronics, are completely vanished in our collective memories. oh, just don't get me started..... Regards, Remco

My list: First and foremost, there are more CD's that are in desperate need of REMASTERING than anything- and many of these are currently in print. The Ramones' recent reissue/remaster thing was excellent....i never realized just how INCREDIBLY HORRIBLE the CD's sounded until I heard them remastered. In the world of jazz this is especially true; many life changing, essential records have been essentially dumped from their master tapes to CD with no essential mixing, compression, mastering, etc. Didn't someone on this list once drop an anecdote about the drums being ENTIRELY erased from one Miles disc, because the brushes were incorrectly identified as "tape hiss"? Terrible! Now, on to the actual albums: Gang of Four- "Entertainment" - Probably the most important post-punk record in both all-out freaking GREATNESS and influence, this hasn't been available in America forever, and the imported UK copies sound effin' horrible. Most of the catalogues of the following bands/artists: the Jesus and Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, A.R. Kane, Unrest, the Fall, Serge Gainsbourg, and Odetta. And more. My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless" is another one that could use a good remastering. For one of the most tumultuous walls of noise ever, it's mastered pretty quietly and muddily. And the influence; everyone from Phish to the Smashing Pumpkins and everyone in between have been influenced by the record. Geffen has the right idea with re-releasing Sonic Youth's albums with bonus tracks and new mixing/mastering; however, they've chosen to do so with the two least essential records in Sonic Youth's history, "Goo" and "Dirty." What about re-releasing their never-on-CD self-titled debut EP, or some of the tape-based outtakes from the Master-Dik sessions? Blaargh. andrew

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Gang of Four- "Entertainment" - Probably the most important post-punk record in both all-out freaking GREATNESS and influence, this hasn't been available in America forever, and the imported UK copies sound effin' horrible.

Yeah, but my domestic LP still sounds great. I never needed that one on CD. The vinyl on that is absolutely perfect.

Yes, indeed! Mine is excellent, as well. But I still think a reissue on CD is important.

I'd like to see Arhoolie records put their old geographical urban

blues

V/A series on CD, particularly the "Detroit Blues" w/ the mindbending One String Sam on it. There is a cd (with a forword by Captain Beefheart) of either One String Sam, or One String Eddie. The original side two of the 1964 LP is there as well: some unknown blues harmonica player who also sings when he is not blowing. I know I *HAVE* this cd, but it is in a friend's home for two years now. I don't even remember anymore which one of the 'one string geniuses' it is, but it is a mindboggling record, and it is on cd. Regards, Remco

Braving the deep waters, Remco wrote to zorn-list: r> There is a cd (with a forword by Captain Beefheart) of either One String r> Sam, or One String Eddie. The original side two of the 1964 LP is there as r> well: some unknown blues harmonica player who also sings when he is not r> blowing. I know I *HAVE* this cd, but it is in a friend's home for two r> years now. I don't even remember anymore which one of the 'one string r> geniuses' it is, but it is a mindboggling record, and it is on cd. Presumably this would be Eddie "One String" Jones, not One String Sam ... Jones' original release was a 1964 split on Takoma called _One String Blues_, the other artist being Edward Hazelton. A quick web search depresses me to inform that it contains 3 bonus tracks from each artist. (Dammit, I wanted to eat meat next month!) -- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com There's no need for us to return to San Francisco at all. -- Michael Moorcock np: John Cage, _Ryoanji_ (Goldstein/Kaul) nr: Michel Butor, _Portrait of the Artist as a Young Ape_

Patrice inquired: P> Translated in English? Yes, sorry to say -- don't think my 30-year-old sophomore french would be up to it <<blush>> tho I'm sure I'm missing plenty. Translation is by Dominic Di Bernardi, pub. Dalkey Archive 1995. -- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com There's no need for us to return to San Francisco at all. -- Michael Moorcock np: Tarwater, _Silur_ nr: Michel Butor, _Portrait of the Artist as a Young Ape_

Braving the deep waters, Patrice wrote to zorn-list: P> But I had the impression that PORTRAIT DE L'ARTISTE EN JEUNE SINGE was P> not really a novel (I almost even remember that Butor gave up on writing P> novels after his first three ones). How would you classify this book? Well, the front cover calls it "A Caprice by Michel Butor", which is probably equivocal enough to be meaningful ;-) ... if I had to invent a genre for it to live in, I guess "imaginary memoir" would suit, if I weren't worried that would put it at some sort of equivalency with Chuck Barris' book (well ...). So it's narrated by a guy named Butor who is invited to spend a summer, in the immediate post-war years, working in the library of a castle in Germany and helping the resident count brush up on his French. Chapters in this narrative alternate with dreams experienced during his stay (or rather, dreams he describes himself as having had ... "rather than claim to remember any dreams I may have had at the castle of H---, remember well enough to be able to note them down after so many years, I prefer to deliberately reconstruct them, dreaming methodically about those long-lost vanished dreams." The dreams are quite well-done, following their own logic but with irruptions of bits of language from the other track used for different ends ... the dreams are markedly of an initiatory character, with explicit alchemical references (e.g. a character whose eyes, in four episode in one chapter, shift from black to green to blue to white; I sense the long arm of C.G. Jung at work here). The daylight scenes are probably equally interpretable as initiatory, but a bit -- a bit -- more naturalistic; they also explicitly quote a fair amount of alchemical literature as Butor browses it in the library. There's a sense, as in Harry Smith's _Heaven and Earth Magic_, that sense could be made of all this, if only there were graph paper in a sufficient number of dimensions. The language is great, managing to recall in the space of a page, here Schulz ("This entire castle was a bubble in time, miraculously spared from the flames, an island in time, with shores, with fortresses built up by the tides, the waves of the present, an island that had provided shelter for all the survivors from another part of the Holy Empire, from another bubble in time which itself had expired under the madness."), there Robbe-Grillet ("... I stopped my reading, i waited, looked out the window, all was calm, the grass, the witch's house, someone was drinking something in the guard's hut, silence, I strolled through the tunnels of forgotten controversies, of terrifying marvels, of heraldry, alchemy, exorcisms, all was calm, I returned to my cell, resumed my slow reading of the _Practica cum Duodecim Clavibus & Appendice, de Magno Lapide Antiquorum Sapientium, cripta & relicta_, printed ..." (etc., this sentence goes on, with interpolated quotes from the texts, for another 2/3 of a page). What fun. -- Jim Flannery newgrange@sfo.com There's no need for us to return to San Francisco at all. -- Michael Moorcock np: Mr. Bungle, _Disco Volante_ nr: Michel Butor, _Portrait of the Artist as a Young Ape_

I'd guess we're unlikely to see a lot of nice remastering jobs until CDs are superseded by the next standard, be that DVD-A or SACD or whatever. Here's hoping whatever direction it takes, they don't waste the bandwidth on gimmicks like surround sound (see http://www.furious.com/perfect/vinyl28.html ) "Entertainment" was reissued by Infinite Zero in the mid-90s & shouldn't be too hard to grab used - you might even be able to get it through 21361.com I've never thought of "Loveless" as a poorly-mastered CD, though the vinyl mix does sound quite different. I'd imagine the choices of SY reissues are based on past sales figures - aren't they doing "Daydream Nation" as well? And, uh, SST put out the self-titled EP on CD, though of course it's long gone now. What I wish SY would do is cobble their zillions of comp tracks on a CD or two, 'cause I really don't need to own the "Sgt Pepper Knew My Father" LP. 'Course what I really want is 180-gram half-speed remastered LPs of everything. Andrew <ahorton@vt.edu> said:

My list:

First and foremost, there are more CD's that are in desperate need of REMASTERING than anything- and many of these are currently in print. The Ramones' recent reissue/remaster thing was excellent....i never realized just how INCREDIBLY HORRIBLE the CD's sounded until I heard them remastered. In the world of jazz this is especially true; many life changing, essential records have been essentially dumped from their master tapes to CD with no essential mixing, compression, mastering, etc. Didn't someone on this list once drop an anecdote about the drums being ENTIRELY erased from one Miles disc, because the brushes were incorrectly identified as "tape hiss"? Terrible!

Now, on to the actual albums:

Gang of Four- "Entertainment" - Probably the most important post-punk record in both all-out freaking GREATNESS and influence, this hasn't been available in America forever, and the imported UK copies sound effin' horrible.

Most of the catalogues of the following bands/artists: the Jesus and Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, A.R. Kane, Unrest, the Fall, Serge Gainsbourg, and Odetta. And more.

My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless" is another one that could use a good remastering. For one of the most tumultuous walls of noise ever, it's mastered pretty quietly and muddily. And the influence; everyone from Phish to the Smashing Pumpkins and everyone in between have been influenced by the record.

Geffen has the right idea with re-releasing Sonic Youth's albums with bonus tracks and new mixing/mastering; however, they've chosen to do so with the two least essential records in Sonic Youth's history, "Goo" and "Dirty." What about re-releasing their never-on-CD self-titled debut EP, or some of the tape-based outtakes from the Master-Dik sessions? Blaargh.

andrew

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'Course what I really want is 180-gram half-speed remastered LPs of everything.

Mhm, I feel the same, but at the very same moment I realise I hardly buy any of those classic vinyl albums that DID come out the last two years. It's 50/ 50 between second hand originals when they are going for the same price as the new ones. But if you compare my cd purchases in the 'cut out bin' departments like www.broinc.com I mustn't call myself a vinyl consumer anymore. Regards, Remco Takken np new vinyl: James Brown directing his band in Grits and Soul (Smash 1964)

The money JB instro LP is SHO IS FUNKY DOWN HERE. Now THAT would be a fantastic reissue.

sh It is newly available on vinyl, though, it's the psychedelic record, with Dave Mathews' trio. Wow, it's glad to be alive with music like this around...

Remco np Swell Maps Collision Time (the seventies vinyl, half as big as the cd re-issue with bonuses, so I heard...)