I came across this: an interesting review. anyone elaborate on this? (I'm not interested in this recording, but just curious after reading this) http://www.omnology.com/zorn06.html#mlm Andrew n.p: Death Cube K - "Dark Hood" ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Songs from the Hermetic Theater recorded March 2001 released June 2001 ONE DISC: four tracks, 51 minutes ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- This is the worst Zorn album I've ever heard. That title was once held by Lacrosse, but Lacrosse has an edge  it has a certain kind of depth to it, a complexity that makes you want to understand it. Songs from the Hermetic Theater is different. It's all on the surface. It's an album of failed experiments and bad gimmicks. The first and third tracks are nothing but static. The first, American Magus, is listed as "electronic music." The other, The Nerve Key, is called "computer music." Both are a waste of time. I've heard plenty of abstract, this-isn't-going-anywhere music from Zorn before  and plenty of noise labeled as music, too  but this time it doesn't work. It isn't creative, unique, or interesting. The second song, In the Very Eye of Night, begins with filmmaker Maya Deren talking about her work. That lasts for about a minute. When she stops, a low, windy drone comes up. It continues for 10 minutes, shifting a little bit as the sounds of water and a glass bowl are added. In this case, you can say that something is happening, but the song is too simple. Maya Deren's monologue gets old after the second or third time. And the droning sound is too flat. Zorn has composed songs out of wind before (on Filmworks VI and Music for Children) but this time it's just filler. The final track is described as "a bizarre meditation on the work of artist/shaman Joseph Beuys, scored for string orchestra and an incredible array of homemade sound devices." In other words, while violins play, Zorn makes sounds with metal pipes, an electric fan, bricks, a mason jar, vacuum tubes, a rubber ball, a power saw, etc. Zorn already did this on Duras Duchamp. In the song Etant Donnes, Zorn made noises with household objects for 13 minutes while minimalist music played in the background. This time he's done the same thing for 16 minutes with a different set of objects. Both songs are sort of silly and pointless, but at least the first one was unique. Fortunately, you can hear this album without buying it. You can create your own version in the privacy of your own home! To create the same effect as American Magus and The Nerve Key, just tune your radio to static. Then turn the volume up to 11. Record this sound for 14 minutes, then record it again for 9 minutes. Congratulations! You are already halfway done. Now place an electric fan close to running water. (Not TOO CLOSE. Be careful!) Record this for 11 minutes. During the first minute, talk about yourself. When you're finished, you'll have your own version of In the Very Eye of Night. Now for the finale. Go into the garage. Bring your CD player so you can play your favorite classical album. (Use something haunting and beautiful, with a lot of strings.) While that plays in the background, record yourself making noise with every object you can find. Hammer a nail into a board. Drag a brick across the floor. Smack two lawn chairs together. Pour paint into a plastic bowl. Bounce a rubber ball against the wall. Throw your car keys at a two-by-four. Keep it going for 16 minutes. Now you've got your own version of BeuysBlock. Take the recording and burn it on to a CD. Done! You just saved yourself 15 bucks. DIY, dude.
I tried following the directions at the bottom of the review, but it ended up sounding kind of shit... ; )
I came across this: an interesting review. anyone elaborate on this? (I'm not interested in this recording, but just curious after reading this)
http://www.omnology.com/zorn06.html#mlm
Andrew n.p: Death Cube K - "Dark Hood"
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Songs from the Hermetic Theater recorded March 2001 released June 2001 ONE DISC: four tracks, 51 minutes -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----
This is the worst Zorn album I've ever heard. That title was once held by Lacrosse, but Lacrosse has an edge - it has a certain kind of depth to it, a complexity that makes you want to understand it.
Songs from the Hermetic Theater is different. It's all on the surface. It's an album of failed experiments and bad gimmicks. The first and third tracks are nothing but static. The first, American Magus, is listed as "electronic music." The other, The Nerve Key, is called "computer music." Both are a waste of time. I've heard plenty of abstract, this-isn't-going-anywhere music from Zorn before - and plenty of noise labeled as music, too - but this time it doesn't work. It isn't creative, unique, or interesting.
The second song, In the Very Eye of Night, begins with filmmaker Maya Deren talking about her work. That lasts for about a minute. When she stops, a low, windy drone comes up. It continues for 10 minutes, shifting a little bit as the sounds of water and a glass bowl are added.
In this case, you can say that something is happening, but the song is too simple. Maya Deren's monologue gets old after the second or third time. And the droning sound is too flat. Zorn has composed songs out of wind before (on Filmworks VI and Music for Children) but this time it's just filler.
The final track is described as "a bizarre meditation on the work of artist/shaman Joseph Beuys, scored for string orchestra and an incredible array of homemade sound devices." In other words, while violins play, Zorn makes sounds with metal pipes, an electric fan, bricks, a mason jar, vacuum tubes, a rubber ball, a power saw, etc.
Zorn already did this on Duras Duchamp. In the song Etant Donnes, Zorn made noises with household objects for 13 minutes while minimalist music played in the background. This time he's done the same thing for 16 minutes with a different set of objects. Both songs are sort of silly and pointless, but at least the first one was unique.
Fortunately, you can hear this album without buying it. You can create your own version in the privacy of your own home!
To create the same effect as American Magus and The Nerve Key, just tune your radio to static. Then turn the volume up to 11. Record this sound for 14 minutes, then record it again for 9 minutes. Congratulations! You are already halfway done.
Now place an electric fan close to running water. (Not TOO CLOSE. Be careful!) Record this for 11 minutes. During the first minute, talk about yourself. When you're finished, you'll have your own version of In the Very Eye of Night.
Now for the finale. Go into the garage. Bring your CD player so you can play your favorite classical album. (Use something haunting and beautiful, with a lot of strings.) While that plays in the background, record yourself making noise with every object you can find.
Hammer a nail into a board. Drag a brick across the floor. Smack two lawn chairs together. Pour paint into a plastic bowl. Bounce a rubber ball against the wall. Throw your car keys at a two-by-four. Keep it going for 16 minutes.
Now you've got your own version of BeuysBlock. Take the recording and burn it on to a CD.
Done! You just saved yourself 15 bucks. DIY, dude.
The album itself is really interesting, regardless of those subjective indications. I'd urge you to check it out! Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Lalo Schifrin "Dirty Harry" (WB) --- Julian <germtheory@optusnet.com.au> escribió: > I tried following the directions at the bottom of
the review, but it ended up sounding kind of shit... ; )
I came across this: an interesting review. anyone elaborate on this? (I'm not interested in this recording, but just curious after reading this)
http://www.omnology.com/zorn06.html#mlm
Andrew n.p: Death Cube K - "Dark Hood"
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Songs from the Hermetic Theater recorded March 2001 released June 2001 ONE DISC: four tracks, 51 minutes
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This is the worst Zorn album I've ever heard. That title was once held by Lacrosse, but Lacrosse has an edge - it has a certain kind of depth to it, a complexity that makes you want to understand it.
Songs from the Hermetic Theater is different. It's all on the surface. It's an album of failed experiments and bad gimmicks. The first and third tracks are nothing but static. The first, American Magus, is listed as "electronic music." The other, The Nerve Key, is called "computer music." Both are a waste of time. I've heard plenty of abstract, this-isn't-going-anywhere music from Zorn before - and plenty of noise labeled as music, too - but this time it doesn't work. It isn't creative, unique, or interesting.
The second song, In the Very Eye of Night, begins with filmmaker Maya Deren talking about her work. That lasts for about a minute. When she stops, a low, windy drone comes up. It continues for 10 minutes, shifting a little bit as the sounds of water and a glass bowl are added.
In this case, you can say that something is happening, but the song is too simple. Maya Deren's monologue gets old after the second or third time. And the droning sound is too flat. Zorn has composed songs out of wind before (on Filmworks VI and Music for Children) but this time it's just filler.
The final track is described as "a bizarre meditation on the work of artist/shaman Joseph Beuys, scored for string orchestra and an incredible array of homemade sound devices." In other words, while violins play, Zorn makes sounds with metal pipes, an electric fan, bricks, a mason jar, vacuum tubes, a rubber ball, a power saw, etc.
Zorn already did this on Duras Duchamp. In the song Etant Donnes, Zorn made noises with household objects for 13 minutes while minimalist music played in the background. This time he's done the same thing for 16 minutes with a different set of objects. Both songs are sort of silly and pointless, but at least the first one was unique.
Fortunately, you can hear this album without buying it. You can create your own version in the privacy of your own home!
To create the same effect as American Magus and The Nerve Key, just tune your radio to static. Then turn the volume up to
-- 11. Record this sound for
14 minutes, then record it again for 9 minutes. Congratulations! You are already halfway done.
Now place an electric fan close to running water. (Not TOO CLOSE. Be careful!) Record this for 11 minutes. During the first minute, talk about yourself. When you're finished, you'll have your own version of In the Very Eye of Night.
Now for the finale. Go into the garage. Bring your CD player so you can play your favorite classical album. (Use something haunting and beautiful, with a lot of strings.) While that plays in the background, record yourself making noise with every object you can find.
Hammer a nail into a board. Drag a brick across the floor. Smack two lawn chairs together. Pour paint into a plastic bowl. Bounce a rubber ball against the wall. Throw your car keys at a two-by-four. Keep it going for 16 minutes.
Now you've got your own version of BeuysBlock. Take the recording and burn it on to a CD.
Done! You just saved yourself 15 bucks. DIY, dude.
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## this be the first movie - the entire soundtrack? I've been having heaps of trouble finding it in Oz. I have the "anthology" which I was a little disappointed with, only because I was really after the first movie's S/T. Andrew n.p: Slayer - "Soundtrack To The Apocalypse" ## -----Original Message----- From: Efrén del Valle [mailto:efrendv@yahoo.es] Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2004 1:01 AM To: Julian; Andrew Mortensen; Zorn-List (E-mail) Subject: Re: interesting review The album itself is really interesting, regardless of those subjective indications. I'd urge you to check it out! Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Lalo Schifrin "Dirty Harry" (WB) --- Julian <germtheory@optusnet.com.au> escribió: > I tried following the directions at the bottom of
the review, but it ended up sounding kind of shit... ; )
I came across this: an interesting review. anyone elaborate on this? (I'm not interested in this recording, but just curious after reading this)
http://www.omnology.com/zorn06.html#mlm
Andrew n.p: Death Cube K - "Dark Hood"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
----
Songs from the Hermetic Theater recorded March 2001 released June 2001 ONE DISC: four tracks, 51 minutes
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
This is the worst Zorn album I've ever heard. That title was once held by Lacrosse, but Lacrosse has an edge - it has a certain kind of depth to it, a complexity that makes you want to understand it.
Songs from the Hermetic Theater is different. It's all on the surface. It's an album of failed experiments and bad gimmicks. The first and third tracks are nothing but static. The first, American Magus, is listed as "electronic music." The other, The Nerve Key, is called "computer music." Both are a waste of time. I've heard plenty of abstract, this-isn't-going-anywhere music from Zorn before - and plenty of noise labeled as music, too - but this time it doesn't work. It isn't creative, unique, or interesting.
The second song, In the Very Eye of Night, begins with filmmaker Maya Deren talking about her work. That lasts for about a minute. When she stops, a low, windy drone comes up. It continues for 10 minutes, shifting a little bit as the sounds of water and a glass bowl are added.
In this case, you can say that something is happening, but the song is too simple. Maya Deren's monologue gets old after the second or third time. And the droning sound is too flat. Zorn has composed songs out of wind before (on Filmworks VI and Music for Children) but this time it's just filler.
The final track is described as "a bizarre meditation on the work of artist/shaman Joseph Beuys, scored for string orchestra and an incredible array of homemade sound devices." In other words, while violins play, Zorn makes sounds with metal pipes, an electric fan, bricks, a mason jar, vacuum tubes, a rubber ball, a power saw, etc.
Zorn already did this on Duras Duchamp. In the song Etant Donnes, Zorn made noises with household objects for 13 minutes while minimalist music played in the background. This time he's done the same thing for 16 minutes with a different set of objects. Both songs are sort of silly and pointless, but at least the first one was unique.
Fortunately, you can hear this album without buying it. You can create your own version in the privacy of your own home!
To create the same effect as American Magus and The Nerve Key, just tune your radio to static. Then turn the volume up to
-- 11. Record this sound for
14 minutes, then record it again for 9 minutes. Congratulations! You are already halfway done.
Now place an electric fan close to running water. (Not TOO CLOSE. Be careful!) Record this for 11 minutes. During the first minute, talk about yourself. When you're finished, you'll have your own version of In the Very Eye of Night.
Now for the finale. Go into the garage. Bring your CD player so you can play your favorite classical album. (Use something haunting and beautiful, with a lot of strings.) While that plays in the background, record yourself making noise with every object you can find.
Hammer a nail into a board. Drag a brick across the floor. Smack two lawn chairs together. Pour paint into a plastic bowl. Bounce a rubber ball against the wall. Throw your car keys at a two-by-four. Keep it going for 16 minutes.
Now you've got your own version of BeuysBlock. Take the recording and burn it on to a CD.
Done! You just saved yourself 15 bucks. DIY, dude.
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Hi there, --- Andrew Mortensen <andrewm@mail.selc.com.au> escribió: > >>> n.p: Lalo Schifrin "Dirty Harry"
## this be the first movie - the entire soundtrack?
I'm not sure if it's the entire soundtrack but there are seven or eight tracks from "Dirty Harry", which are the highlight of the album. I rarely listen to the rest of it, though.
I've been having heaps of trouble finding it in Oz. I have the "anthology" which I was a little disappointed with, only because I was really after the first movie's S/T.
I also heard the Anthology and was greatly disappointed until I found this one. They have copies at www.moviegrooves.com: http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/schifrin.htm They're not cheap!! Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Sun City Girls "Carnival Folklore Resurrection Radio" (Abduction) ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, más protección contra el spam ¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es
I'm not sure if it's the entire soundtrack but there are seven or eight tracks from "Dirty Harry", which are the highlight of the album. I rarely listen to the rest of it, though. ## OH BUMMER, THE ONE YOU HAVE, IS THE ONE I THOUGHT WAS THE COMPLETE FIRST SOUNDTRACK, WHEN I STUMBLED UPON IT ON THE NET - NOT LOOKING AT THE TRACK DETAILS ETC.... :( WHY DO THEY PUT OUT A COMPILATION, WHEN THEY COULD JUST RELEASE THE COMPLETE SCORE...?? IT'S PERPLEXING & ANNOYING... THE ONE I HAVE IS http://tinyurl.com/2cv9v & IS OK, BUT NOT MUCH THERE.... I'M THINKING OF RIPPING THE AUDIO FROM THE DVD & PUTTING IT ON A CD, UNTIL THEY RELEASE A FULL SCORE OF IT.... ;) BUT YOUR ONE DOES SEEM LIKE A WORTHY PURCHASE - MAYBE...? http://tinyurl.com/2nlsb ALSO, THANKS FOR www.moviegrooves.com - THAT IS AN AWESOME SITE!! THANKS ANDREW N.P: SLIMEY THINGS - "PRE-PRODUCTION DEMOS" ##
I noticed in the credits on Zorn's "IAO music in sacred light" CD, it reads: "obi photo: John Zorn with Kenneth Anger at Anthology Film Archives, Halloween 2001" but the only photo on the obi strip is of Aleister Crowley. I guess the described photo was scheduled to be included, but circumstances prevented it? Anyone know any details? -P. Serriano
Hi, My "IAO" copy features a blurred photo of Anger and Zorn but a friend of mine got the album a month ago and it now features Crowley. I've also noticed that there are two different versions of Ribot's "Shrek" live album -one carries a photo of Ribot with a large fish under the Cd itself that didn't appear in the first copies distributed. There are other examples of Tzadik design changes that I can't remember right now. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Sun City Girls "Box of Chameleons" (Abduction) --- "P. Serriano" <sahd70-listy@yahoo.com> escribió:
I noticed in the credits on Zorn's "IAO music in sacred light" CD, it reads:
"obi photo: John Zorn with Kenneth Anger at Anthology Film Archives, Halloween 2001"
but the only photo on the obi strip is of Aleister Crowley. I guess the described photo was scheduled to be included, but circumstances prevented it? Anyone know any details?
-P. Serriano
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-----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-bounces+bvergara=sfsu.edu@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-bounces+bvergara=sfsu.edu@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Efrén del Valle Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 12:59 AM
My "IAO" copy features a blurred photo of Anger and Zorn but a friend of mine got the album a month ago and it now features Crowley.
How odd -- I have the Anger and Zorn photo as well. Tzadik probably figured it was too blurry for it to be effective.
There are other examples of Tzadik design changes that I can't remember right now.
Does anyone know why Susie Ibarra's new album "Folkloriko" is announced as "Lakbay" elsewhere (FE, Amazon)? Anyone heard it yet? Later, Ben np: bonnie "prince" billy, greatest palace music http://www.thewilyfilipino.com
has Tzadik re-released alot of the Avant catalogue? I'd expect Shea's "Shock Corridor" to be re-released on Tzadik...?? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-bounces+andrewm=mail.selc.com.au@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-bounces+andrewm=mail.selc.com.au@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Efrén del Valle Sent: Wednesday, 5 May 2004 5:59 PM To: P. Serriano; zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: IAO Photo Credits Hi, My "IAO" copy features a blurred photo of Anger and Zorn but a friend of mine got the album a month ago and it now features Crowley. I've also noticed that there are two different versions of Ribot's "Shrek" live album -one carries a photo of Ribot with a large fish under the Cd itself that didn't appear in the first copies distributed. There are other examples of Tzadik design changes that I can't remember right now. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Sun City Girls "Box of Chameleons" (Abduction) --- "P. Serriano" <sahd70-listy@yahoo.com> escribió:
I noticed in the credits on Zorn's "IAO music in sacred light" CD, it reads:
"obi photo: John Zorn with Kenneth Anger at Anthology Film Archives, Halloween 2001"
but the only photo on the obi strip is of Aleister Crowley. I guess the described photo was scheduled to be included, but circumstances prevented it? Anyone know any details?
-P. Serriano
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Hi, --- Andrew Mortensen <andrewm@mail.selc.com.au> escribió: > has Tzadik re-released alot of the Avant catalogue? I don't think so. The Tzadik & Avant rosters are quite coincidental but I think there haven't been any common releases to date.
I'd expect Shea's "Shock Corridor" to be re-released on Tzadik...??
I wouldn't hold my breath, to be honest. Tzadik's releases schedule seems too busy to look at external catalogues, imho. But you never know... Best, Efrén del Valle ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, más protección contra el spam ¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es
Hi,
THE ONE I HAVE IS http://tinyurl.com/2cv9v & IS OK, BUT NOT MUCH THERE....
The cd you have is the one I felt very disappointed with. It's actually the music from two of the films re-recorded, if my memory serves, and it sounds quite cheesy, imho. I think you'd like this one much better than "Anthology".
ALSO, THANKS FOR www.moviegrooves.com - THAT IS AN AWESOME SITE!!
Sure, it's a great site. And you can listen to some samples at least. The prices aren't exactly popular, but they carry lots of rare stuff. Best, Efrén del Valle ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, más protección contra el spam ¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es
Hello Efren et. al., On Wed, 5 May 2004, Efrén del Valle wrote:
The cd you have is the one I felt very disappointed with. It's actually the music from two of the films re-recorded, if my memory serves, and it sounds quite cheesy, imho.
I haven't been following all of the various links to the particular albums, but I can report that at least one of the currently available soundracks to Bullitt is also a re-recording. It is *very* difficult to tell from the packaging that it is not the original 1960's release (which, by the way, was also a re-recording of the original soundtrack - apparently the music used in the actual movie has never been released). I lucked out at Amobea records in Los Angeles: when I asked someone if the Bullitt soundtrack cd I was holding was a contemporary re-recording or the original 1960's release, they just happened to have the cd release of the original 60's recording in the cutout bin (missing the booklet, but whatever) for US&2.50. It's only about 30 minutes long, but worth every penny. If anyone out there wants to do a little schifrin trade, i've been looking for the original recording of 'Enter the Dragon' for almost a decade, and I'd love to hear whatever there is of the original Dirty Harry soundtrack that has been released.... (I'm also looking for his CTI release, 'Black Widow' which is oop). I have other material to trade, too, beside oop schifrin.. -whit
ALSO, THANKS FOR www.moviegrooves.com - THAT IS AN AWESOME SITE!!
Sure, it's a great site. And you can listen to some samples at least. The prices aren't exactly popular, but they carry lots of rare stuff.
Best,
Efrén del Valle
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Hi, --- "William W. Schonbein" <wwschonb@artsci.wustl.edu> escribió: >
I haven't been following all of the various links to the particular albums, but I can report that at least one of the currently available soundracks to Bullitt is also a re-recording.
Yes, the ones with the cover artwork that quite ressembles the original movie poster. They are here: http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/schifrin.htm The first item is the Dirty Harry soundtrack I mentioned, and the "original" Bullit recording belongs to the same collection.
*very* difficult to tell from the packaging that it is not the original 1960's release (which, by the way, was also a re-recording of the original soundtrack - apparently the music used in the actual movie has never been released).
I didn't know, but it sounds great! By the way, would someone remind me the name of the guitar player?
If anyone out there wants to do a little schifrin trade, i've been looking for the original recording of 'Enter the Dragon' for almost a decade,
Really?! I've seen it in Barcelona in several different editions. One was a special two-cd cardboard box that also included "Bullitt". If I'm not wrong, there's a store here that stocks the original "Enter the Dragon" sountrack on cd, the one that is featured in the Mooviegrooves website on LP format. I could check it for you, but I cannot promise to be fast. There has been a long strike in the Postal Service here and they have large amount of pending deliveries. I've been waiting for packages for over 1.5 months now and they return some of them to their origins for no reason. It's awful. If you want me to check it, please contact me off-list. Best, Efrén del Valle n.p: Keiji Haino: "Hikari Yami Uchitokeaishi Konohibiki" (PSF) ______________________________________________________________________ Correo Yahoo! - 6MB, más protección contra el spam ¡Gratis! http://correo.yahoo.es
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