In a message dated 7/3/2002 3:24:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, dan.given@ualberta.ca writes:

1) the Maneri family: Joe and Mat both grate on my nerves, though I've tried
several times. I'll even expand that as far as many of the people they play
with (such as Pandelis Karayorgis, Randy Peterson, etc...).

I have to second this, I've really tried with Joe Maneri and even inquired on this list about it at one point. And for myself, I would add Fantomas (either one) and Mr. Bungle's Disco Volante.

Dale.