Fair enough: Nathan's got a good point. I will point out, however, for those who've dipped into this stuff before in vain hope, that Muir is far more audible here than in any extant live boot of this particular lineup - and in some cases, he's very much audible. But yes, in the more heated moments, the congestion between him and Bruford does make it hard to distinguish what's what. Jamie's current-day reflections in the liner notes are an additional bonus. The only better source of live Muir with this group is the earlier Collectors' Club release of the Beat Club TV appearance that took place a few days later in Bremen. He's very much audible on that one, but there's not nearly as much music to be heard - one long improv, a version of "Exiles" and a truncated "Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Part One." The long improv track, here titled "The Rich Tapestry of Life," is familiar to bootleg collectors as "Muir's Bremen," but it's never sounded better than here. (Better still is the actual TV footage, since you can actually watch Muir tearing it up while clad in red fur - but that's somewhat harder to find at present.) Of course, if you *really* want to hear what Muir brought to the band, there's still no place to turn but 'Larks' Tongues in Aspic,' still one of my all-time top ten. The other boots are few in number, and uniformly dreadful. Steve Smith ssmith36@sprynet.com -----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of nme Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:46 PM To: Zorn-List (E-mail) Subject: Re: King Crimson Collectors' Club [No JZ] Unfortunately, I wouldn't recommend this if your primary interest is in Muir's playing. The bootleg quality of the tape makes it hard to hear, and/or differentiate the percussion. Cross, Wetton and Fripp, however are very audible and proceed to tear it up.