i will be very surprised if doseone ( of themselves, cLOUDDEAD etc) does not fast become one of the most important artists of recent times. not to mention other MCs really streatching the medium: Sage Francis, Noah23, and, most recent effort excluded, Aesop Rock. "just wanted to reply to this with resounding agreement. And the same for cannibal ox, el-p, and Mr. lif. And I also think the two albums from Dalek are incredible, noisy, wall of sound masterpieces. And, I happen to like parliament, funkadelic, especially the early, more guitar oriented funkadelic albums. Frankly to the extent that outkast is derivative of this history is fine by me." "oh, and just having a great, varied record collection doesn't exactly get 'fantastic damage' made." nathan