-----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Patrice L. Roussel Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 2:30 PM To: skip Heller Cc: Patrice L. Roussel; Joseph Zitt; > chromasoom audio visuele communicatie >; zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com; proussel@ichips.intel.com Subject: Re: re : mcdonalds When Hollywood made the movies that are almost acknowledged now as the masterpieces of the genre (and let's limit ourselves to the '40s and '50s to avoid controversy), do you really believe that they were targetting the intellectuals and happy few? These movies were popular successes that we now consider as masterpieces. Hello, ...for me, this brings to mind the slew of American films and directors that were championed in the '50's in France by Bazin, Godard, Truffaut, etc. They were particularly fond of B-grade noir, which was stuff that was certainly not targeting intellectuals or the happy few. It was also work that was, for the most part (Manny Farber being my favorite exception), overlooked in the states during that period. I've always enjoyed the fact that Hollywood employed guys like Anthony Mann, Sam Fuller, Robert Aldrich, etc. purely for the $$$ motive, while thousands of miles away film fans were appreciating these movies on a level far above what Hollywood had ever intended. I remain... Joseph NP: The Holy Modal Rounders- "The Moray Eels Eat the Holy Modal Rounders" CD NR: George P. Pelecanos- "King Suckerman"