Most of my burned cds are cds I would probably never have bought anyway (mostly for financial resons I guess, but not always). I try to never copy independant releases. I do it once in a while and I think this can be good because the artists will then be known and as some of you said, then people might go see the shows, buy the new releases, etc. As for used cds, many of them I've paid ridiculously low prices. There's a lot of these I've paid 10$ or less and I would have never paid 20$ for those. If I don't listen to a cd and I sell it to a used store, I say to myself the same thing as burned cds. Someone might see the shows, buy the new cd's, etc. I sometimes download major record company releases. Most of the time it is by curiosity. I like to listen to new releases by bands I've onced liked but don't like that much anymore (I'm thinking of the red hot chili peppers for example). All in all, if I don't plan to buy the cd, who cares. At least, I've listen to the damn thing. And I have absolutely have no remorse to rip a Beatles cd. Half of them are dead, and the other half has got enough money. I prefer to give my money to independants. Also, what about those music clubs? The artists don't get the same thing as when we buy the cds in a store. Finally, there is also an ecological rational behind buying and selling used cd's. They just pick up dust at home. So why not help someone take pleasure in listening to it. It is also a way to help the misfortunate to listen to music they can't get their hands on. I don't know, but I don't feel bad in all of this. If we are not to consider music in the same way as a big mac or a gap t-shirt, we must then accept to promote it in ways wich do not follow the rules of the market. It is sad for some, but I think the ones who are paying the price are not the independants but the major record labels. Is it me or this list is less and less of a Zorn list? (But hey, I'm playing the game to) Do people still buy Zorn cd's out there? I have seen so little comments on his latest filmworks releases for example. Does anyone know if the guy is selling less and less cds? In this case, I think it would have more to do with the high quantity of releases than because we copy is cds. No?