Hi all Just to clear up a few things. Right, so we know the movie isn't perfect. It seems to me, though, that for a lot of Zorn fans Claudia Heuremann's biggest crime was that she made Claudia Heuremann's film - not theirs. Not even John Zorn's. I'm making no judgements about people who collect CDs & books & stuff - hell, I'm one - my point simply was that in making a film about her obsession she seemed to touch on something that Zorn's audience has in common - a obsession or fanatacism (or is it only me?). But whether you though she did that well or badly, OK, that's something we can chew on forever. But I need to clear up the questions I asked at the end: What other stories are out there about the influence of Zorn? I don't mean "what other films" but "what other stories"? Hers isn't the only one. She's just the only one who's filmed hers. What about the guys on the list who are writing JZ's biography, for instance? What's the story there? How did they get into it? What led them to it? Or that collaborative tribute project that was all abuzz last year - what happened to it? Did anyone meet up over a coffee to see where to take it? Or maybe there are people on the list who have found themselves in particular lines of work (used CD dealing, maybe; alternative music journalism, perhaps) directly or indirectly as a result of Zorn's music. You know? Once upon a time there was a guy called John Zorn who made some wild music that got all inside me. Then what happened? Efren says, "Maybe you should bear in mind that some people just don't feel the need to produce art, which is a very respectable choice, imho. How many movie-freaks do you know who have gotten into film-making or any related fields? That's absurd." But, it's not absurd. I'm a writer too. Reading great writers made me want to write. I was listening to a BBC Radio 3 interview of Jan Garbarek last night and he told his story about being turned on by Coltrane's playing and how that led to his own music making. Artists inspire in all kinds of not-absurd ways. Is it absurd that someone should be so moved by Coltrane's playing to pick up a tenor sax? But I'm not just talking about art. Maybe John Zorn's interrogation of his feelings about Judaism has led others to reappraise their own faith - Jewish or otherwise. Perhaps being a fan of his music put you in touch with some great people you would never otherwise have met. Perhaps something in Zorn's creative, collaborative process touched you in a way that changed your view of the kind of potential that exists between and among groups of people. Perhaps it put you on a search of your own for something that was awakened in you. You know, I'm just asking, now that Claudia Heuremann has had her say, what stories do people on the list have about John Zorn? *Their* John Zorn. As I said, there's got to be more than 12. c