i'll chime in my two cents all at once to get it all out of the way. first of all, lombardo appeared in matthew barney's cremaster 2 (my personal favorite). i recommend the soundtrack to this film highly, great classical/avant/jazz/etc. from barney's musical composer Jonathan Bepler. i recommend Barney's beautiful new book "the cremaster cycle" available for around $40 on amazon. Barney is really into punk and hardcore, parts of the cremaster series had allusions to metal and hardcore (agnostic front and murphy's law were in cremaster 3). too bad he couldn't get SSD like he had wanted... in terms of slowness: SWANS ("filth" era) Melvins-s/t (originally released as "Lysol") Khanate (James Plotkin and Steven O'Malley) Old Man Gloom-seminar III: Zozobra (a thirty minute opus, one track, slow, epic. makes my hair stand) exquisite drumming (speed): Dave Witte (i.e. Discordance Axis, Human Remains) Brian Chippendale (of Lightning Bolt) Charles Hayward (This Heat, Camberwell Now) Lombardo for a good new rock record check out: Harkonen-"Shake Harder Boy" (on hydra head records, melvins meets botch) and i believe it is Manowar who holds the record for loudest band (correct me if i'm wrong). for good news on eye candy and slow music c/o Steven O'malley, see his website at: www.ideologic.org "slow is the new loud" -adam morosky _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail