Somebody pointed out that, indeed, the Naked City members are getting older, perhaps being the reason for not playing "Speedfreaks" at maximum speed (perhaps ten years of not playing and only extremely limited rehearsal was another??) Also I read a funny comment on the Ipecac board that apart from Patton the members looked "pretty old" (I guess he didn't know them before) Nevertheless, they still played plenty of "Torture Garden" tracks and it made me wonder: Who is the oldest musician to play napalm-blasts and grind core? I think Frith is 53 or 54 now. Is that the record? At the moment I can't think of anybody else. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail