You will be driven mad if you listen to it when not; couldnt last the whole 30 minutes. Though you have to be mad in the first place to put it on. Any way its a piece of music for the mad and its wonderful. If I believed catharsis worked (which it doesnt, look at the research), I would tout LT as an amazingly cathartic piece of music. -----Original Message----- From: zorn-list-bounces+zsteiner=butler.edu@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:zorn-list-bounces+zsteiner=butler.edu@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Will Sarginson Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:43 AM To: zorn-list@mailman.xmission.com Subject: tortue garden I was actually meaning the original release of TG on its own, with full cover artwork. Not the Black Box version, which features Leng Tche.....LT is great I think, like all Zorns best, you have to be in the right frame of mind for it....!! _____ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with <http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree> Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard