but i've not brought macca down with a word or two. wishing more of someone is not a condemnation. and it's CERTAINLY not based on wealth. i expect far less from the wealthy. i do, i suppose, expect more of artists in come cases, because they are, at times, the ones who are reflecting and evaluating the depth of emotion in our shared experience. in that regard, i would have been much more impressed with sir paul had he said 'holy shit' (as did you when your friend died) then 'what a drag.' 'holy shit' sounds more like someone caring to me. maybe that's just a generational thing, though, and i'll drop that one. but because he's an artist who might give more thought than at least some other people to things like the sanctity of memories of the dead, friendship above squabbling, love over property. i've never thought he was the deepest of rivers, though, so i'm not entirely surprised. if we all live in one big glass house, than what's the point of having a cliche about it? "jet" rocks, which is more important than any of this. kurt _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail