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by resilience universal 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

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Re: SY
by Kurt Gottschalk 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

i like them. i've liked the 'official' (does that mean 'vocal') releases as well, although they don't stand up to the best stuff (esp. evol). geffen v syr is more a matter of taste than anything, methinks. but what happened to the rerelease of the last brigitte fontaine disc that they were supposed to do as syr5? kg >From: "Zachary Steiner" <zsteiner(a)butler.edu> >To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: Re: SY >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:24:42 -0400 > >What does everyone think of the four EPs that SY put out on their own >label. I have the first three and enjoy them mostly, but there are >portions I can do with out. Worth the ten bucks but not essential, I >believe. I'm curious to see what various people who like different facets >of SY's output think. > >Zach > > >_______________________________________________ >zorn-list mailing list >zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/zorn-list _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Frisell
by Theo Klaase 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

I can't believe how many people are disappointed in the Bill Frisell w/ Dave Holland and Elvin Jones disc. It's in my top 5 Frisell CD's. At first listen I was unsure, but after repeat listening, it sucks you in and eventually I fell in love with new versions of tunes like 20 years and Again... And Moon River, Now that's playing guitar!!! In-farking-credible!!! ===== -That which is Theo "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." Gene Roddenbury, Creator of Star Trek www.fstylee.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Re: The Ex (was Re: SY)
by Andreas Dietz 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

another good side project of The Ex is Kletka Red: Leonid Soybelman, Andy Ex, Tony Buck and Joe Williamson. They have released on Tzadik but are a far better live band. a real blast is the Ex Orkest with ICP musicians and Jaap Blonk... Andreas np: Roberto Rodriguez - El Danzon De Moises (Tzadik) great! > > Like Sonic Youth, Boredoms and The Ex both have a huge pack of side > > projets. Unlike SY, almost all of them are worth checking out, but it >would > > be too much for me to get into here... _________________________________________________________________ Werden Sie Mitglied bei MSN Hotmail, dem grÃ¶Ãten E-Mail-Service der Welt. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Chick Corea 'Circling In' [was RE: overdue CD reissues (was frisell cd) ]
by Andreas Dietz 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

>From: "Steve Smith" <ssmith36(a)sprynet.com> > >All of the material from 'Circling In,' recorded on October 13 and 19, >1970, >was remastered and issued on CD by Blue Note in 1992, titled 'Early Circle' >and released under Corea's name. this is not the whole story: on 'Circling In' are 7 tracks with Miroslav Vitous and Roy Haynes and 2 Circle tracks without Braxton, which are all missing on 'Early Circle'. Fortunately IÂ´ve got a used copy of 'Circling In' for a reasonable price and in fairly good condition some weeks ago. >Completely unrelated to the above, you probably already know that the two >Circle LPs on Japanese CBS, 'Live in Germany' (November 1970 - versions of >"Medley: Toy Room/Q&A" and "There Is No Greater Love") have been released >on expensive Japanese CDs under >Corea's own Stretch imprint. There was some talk of them being reissued by >the domestic branch of the label as well, but that seems not to have >happened. Lord knows I'm too cheap to spring for the imports, in this case. >Anybody heard 'em? IÂ´ve heard 'Live in Germany' only once and it doesnÂ´t offer so much more essentials and donÂ´t have good sound quality (if memory serves). IÂ´ll check it again soon... Andreas np: George Russell - Stratusphunk _________________________________________________________________ Testen Sie MSN Messenger fÃ¼r Ihren Online-Chat mit Freunden: http://messenger.msn.com

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Overdue CD reissues, Gang of four
by Edgar Lee 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

The 1995 Infinite Zero CD rerelease of Entertainment by the Gang of Four sounds OK although I prefer the original vinyl because it has a punchier sound compared to the more compressed sound of the CD. I thought it was no longer available because of the problems Henry Rollins had with his reissue label,however, it looks as if there are still copies around on the net. It is a better purchase than the clumsily sequenced Rhino greatest hits 100 Flowers bloom. It is couple with the Yellow e.p, however, a coupling with the 1st single on the great Fast label would be nicer. Edgar http://www.sold.com.au - The Sold.com.au Big Brand Sale - New PCs, notebooks, digital cameras, phones and more ... Sale ends June 12

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Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: RE: RE: SY
by Arthur Gadney 05 Jun '02

05 Jun '02

HellO!!! >And then there was that album with Terry >Ex and Han Bennink. A tough listen for me. I admit I >couldn't stand it. Too disperse for my taste, although >both are great musicians, of course. This was a big dissapointment for me. Probably the least interesting of all The Ex related CDs. I have seen that dup live several times, and hey have always delivered some of the best punknoise impro I have heard of. But on CD, a lot of the energy was lost. Bennink is amazing of course, but Terry just doesn't cut it you can't see him running around hitting his guitar, dragging it across the floor and so on. It looks alot more than it sounds... >What do people recommend as a good starting point for >Boredoms and The EX? Well, like Sonic Youth they both changed alot during their ca 20 years of existance. Boredoms quie brutally around the middle of the 90s and The Ex more slowly. The Boredoms discography is mainly divided into two parts: pre 95, being totally crazy berserk comic book punk stuff, drawing on many genres. Post 95, being heavily inspired by krautrock, drone, minimalism and certainly techno and modern dance. Of the first, their absolut nmasterpiece is "Chocolate Synthesizer" from 1994 and of the second there is only two full albums so far (a new should be on the way) "Super AE" from 1998 and "Vision Creation Newsun" from 1999. Both are excellent, but you might want to give them a listen before you decide which one two pick up. The Ex started out as very, very simpel punk with very political lyrics, and slowly over the years developed a style mixing punk, experimental stuff, jazz, world music and many other things. For some of the really early stuff go for "The Dignity Of Labour". Their first real masterpiece and you can hear them already starting to stretch out. Another favorite from the 80s is incredible double CD "Joggers & Smoggers" which has pure punk songs mixed with many, many different things. My favorite of he newest stuff is still "Starter Alternators" from 1998. That's the one that really turned me on to them. Like Sonic Youth, Boredoms and The Ex both have a huge pack of side projets. Unlike SY, almost all of them are worth checking out, but it would be too much for me to get into here... BTW, Whatever happened to the "In The Fishtank" with Sonic Youth & Friends (= Han Bennink, The Ex plus other Ducth hip cats?!) Cheers, _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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Re: Another new Bill Frisell
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 04 Jun '02

04 Jun '02

I've heard Frisell mentioned in reverent tones by more than few people (most of whom are not inhabitants of Planet Zorn). They lump him in with Metheny, Mike Stern, John Scofield, Robben Ford, etc., as one of the big names in guitar jazz. While Frisell is not exactly in the same camp stylistically he is obviously as famous and respected by the people who listen to such artists. Not ashamed to admit that he likes Scofield's "Blue Matter" disc, tom In a message dated 6/4/02 4:35:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mr.dave(a)attbi.com writes: > Yes, he sure does. My sense of it is that his group is > as loyal as say, Naked City fans, but the group is MUCH > larger. I've run into several people just in day-to-day > life that are huge Frisell fans. Can't really say that > about Zornlisters. > > That said, Frisell may well lose some of those guys with > the direction he's going now. I suspect that this CD > might be the end of the line for the Americana thing. > Bill is playing a lot now with his Intercontinental > Quartet. That band includes a Vinicius Cuantaria from > Brazil, Sidiki Camara from Mali and Christos Govetas > from Greece. They're recording a CD this spring/summer. > > - Dave > > NP: Comfort and Joy, Clive Gregson > > But, somebody said he really liked the CD with Holland & Jones, so I'm > > wondering: Does he have a new group of hardcore fans, far away from > Zornlist > > land?? >

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Re: Harras
by Kurt Gottschalk 04 Jun '02

04 Jun '02

harras might not be an altogether great record, but i do rather like it. quiet, interesting, and only example of this line-up you're gonna find. (only example of zorn and wm parker at all? i think so...) it's better than 'yankees' anyway... _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Re: SY
by Zachary Steiner 04 Jun '02

04 Jun '02

syr5 is Kim Gordon, DJ Olive, and Ikue Mori...don't know what the happened to the other

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