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Re: Townshend
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

It's probably sacrilege to dis the Who so soon after the great John Entwistle's death but I have always been baffled by "Tommy"'s popularity. There are some wonderful songs but it doesn't hang together as a whole, for me. I have The Who's "BBC Sessions" in work today. Can't wait for "Boris The Spider." Long live rock, Tom In a message dated 7/1/02 9:15:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TagYrIt(a)aol.com writes: > In a message dated 7/1/2002 8:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Samerivertwice(a)aol.com writes: > > > >> >> The Who -- Tommy (am I the only one who thinks the premise of this >> pretentious "rock opera" is just plain silly?) >> >> > > As much as I like this, in retrospect with what Townshend went on to do > (especially the later solo stuff) "pretentious" is completely > understandable. > > Dale. ______________________________________________________________________ Phil Spector: "I've been listening to a lot of Andrew Lloyd Webber lately, and enjoying it. Someday I hope to set his stuff to music."

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Fwd: Re: worst record
by Efrén del Valle 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Hi, > > Not that I disagree with your post, but just thought > I'd point out that Mike > Patton's Bacharach cover is very very similar to the > original... then I probably heard a different version of that song. In fact, I remember it being pretty cheesy, so it might not be the Bacharach original. Best, EfrÃ©n _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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Bryan Ferry
by Parry Gettelman 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

I actually liked the standards album better than the new one -- which I like fine, but it was amazing how fresh and yet lived-in the songs sounded on the covers album. I thought it was cool he didn't Roxify them. I didn't think of his approach as so much conservative as revealing that he's a great interpreter quite independent of that signature sound. Speaking of great interpreters, what a shame Rosemary Clooney has passed on. Parry > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 18:46:05 -0700 > To: zorn-list(a)mailman.xmission.com > From: Tosh <tosh3(a)earthlink.net> > Subject: Great Albums > > I am a die hard fan of Bryan Ferry's work - but lately his work has > disappointed me. I thought his last covers album was so-so. It > would have been much better in my opinion if he 'Roxy Music-ized' the > material (all great standards) but instead sort of did a conservative > view of the songs. So naturally I didn't have high hopes for his new > album 'Frantic.' > > Well I do have it and I think it's a fantastic album. Strong songs, > strong arrangements...It reminds me why I love his work. > > So a weak album (times goes by) by a great artist, and a great > comeback album after a decade of so-so work. > -- > Tosh Berman > TamTam Books > http://www.tamtambooks.com

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Fwd: worst record
by Efrén del Valle 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Hi again, > Great Jewish Music by Burt Bacharach. There might > be a few gems in there, > but this was the album that stopped me cold from any > considerations of > being a Tzadik completist. I don't really think that "Great Jewish Music: Burt Bacharach" represents a meaningful example of the Tzadik catalogue or that it should discourage anyone to keep on investigating. Furthermore, i think that most of the covers there are really twisting the originals in a very clever way. Take Dave Douglas, Marc Ribot or Mike Patton's as examples. And yes, some forgettable spots like the Quine/Cole collaboration. If you find this prescindible, you haven't heard the Marc Bolan release... > > Otomo Yoshihide, Filament 1. He's done other > interesting sine wave work, > even under the Filament name, but this one, his > first, is still pretty dull. Was this published by Extreme Records? if so, I must agree with you 100%. totally boring and unsubstantial. Best, EfrÃ©n del VAlle _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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re: style , repetition and cliche
by Ryan Novak 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

>So when we listen >to things as dull as Mule Variations or Murray Street >we feel that disappointment even more because these >artists are justing paying the rent. SY even allude to >it with their title being where their studios are and >Mule Variations is probably refers to Tom saying it's >really a slight variation for an ass.. > >Edgar Well, obviously Tom Waits is not beyond criticism like I thought- but to say either SY or Waits is "just paying the rent" is bullshit. I've never gotten into Sonic Youth, but I can still give them a lot more credit than that. And Mule Variations is getting way too much flack- it's a good album. It feels like there's something beyond the music in this case that creates such a reaction, but I can't put my finger on it. ----Ryan Novak __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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Re: Townshend
by TagYrIt＠aol.com 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

In a message dated 7/1/2002 8:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, Samerivertwice(a)aol.com writes: > > The Who -- Tommy (am I the only one who thinks the premise of this > pretentious "rock opera" is just plain silly?) > > As much as I like this, in retrospect with what Townshend went on to do (especially the later solo stuff) "pretentious" is completely understandable. Dale.

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Best out of worst
by William Crump 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

>> what album did you hear that you thought was >> absolute crap but then turned into an album that you really >> love? > SY, Daydream Nation. --Wm. Crump

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Fwd: Re: Worst Record ever Made (by someone you normally admire)
by Efrén del Valle 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Hi, > > next installment -- GREAT ALBUMS FROM PEOPLE YOU > NEVER SUSPECTED COULD MAKE > GREAT ALBUMS! > > sh Although I know it may be dangerous to say this here, i'll have to refer again to Mr. Bill Frisell. I was nicely surprised by his "Quartets" album on Elektra. Probably the only Frisell record I admire, although vaguely. Let's add BjÃ¶rk's soundtrack to "Dancing in the Dark" and her single with the Spanish flamenco guitarist Raimundo Amador ("So Broken"). The rest could be blown up as far as I'm concerned!! And I must agree with the "Mule VAriations" opponents too. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle n.p: Tim Berne "We're only in it for the money"- Unwound Box. (Screwgun) _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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Fwd: worst plus reviews lindsay/Frisell
by Efrén del Valle 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Hi, Also, > has anyone heard the new Arto Lindsay? Even if it > does just sound like his last few, is it still good? No, no, no. It sounds even worse than his last few! I didn't even make it to the end of the record. For me, it just sucks. Can't be more diplomatic. I don't think I'll ever pay attention to Mr. Lindsay again, at least if he goes on with this brazilian stuff. I don't think he's really adding nothing new to the bossa tradition, although it seems to be his intention. > > Continuing the worst album question - a different > question is - what album did you hear that you > thought was > absolute crap but then turned into an album that you > really > love? It happened to me with "The Gift". Not that I love it now, but I find it a good record after giving it more chances than the initial listening, after which I though "Zorn is just getting old". I remember seeing a Tom Waits video many years ago (I was probably ten or even under) and I just hated him - his voice scarred me! It was only two or three years ago that I decided to forget that trauma and give him a chance. I've bought most of his albums since then. Best, EfrÃ©n del Valle n.p: JZ "IAO" _______________________________________________________________ Copa del Mundo de la FIFA 2002 El Ãºnico lugar de Internet con vÃdeos de los 64 partidos. Â¡ApÃºntante ya! en http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/fc/es/

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john zorn
by giuliana ferraris 01 Jul '02

01 Jul '02

Has anyone been to the premiere of The gift at the barbican in London? Yes, it was quite a few months ago, but I still can't make my mind up about that gig. Any opinions on New traditions in east asian bar bands? I've had it for quite a long time but I've started to listen to it only recently and I love it, especially the track with drums. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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